#3166542 - 02/16/13 06:23 PM
Buying goodies for deer season when its not season
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93civEJ1
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So, I just came back home a few mins ago with my first every muzzleloader. Wally world special..couldnt pass it up. Found a CVA wolf for what seemed like a good price compared to what all I see online for the same gun. Only thing is, they left the dang trigger lock on it.  The ram rod seems a little short, but i just read something online about it twisting to extend...I will check that out shortly. Any other tips I need to know for a first time muzzleloader owner??
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#3166569 - 02/16/13 06:34 PM
Re: Buying goodies for deer season when its not season
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Yes, Blackhorn 209 powder and either CCI 209M or Federal 209A shotshell primers. If it were me I would avoid pellets like the plague. Been there, done that. Never going back. Use Blackhorn 209 unless you want to clean your rifle early and often. Have fun!
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#3166578 - 02/16/13 06:40 PM
Re: Buying goodies for deer season when its not season
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i have the same gun. i love mine. shoots great
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#3166592 - 02/16/13 06:53 PM
Re: Buying goodies for deer season when its not season
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ROUGH COUNTRY HUNTER
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those are nice guns
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#3166598 - 02/16/13 06:57 PM
Re: Buying goodies for deer season when its not season
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93civEJ1
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It will probably be a little while before I ever shoot it, but now I dont have to haul the bow during muzzle season.
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#3166624 - 02/16/13 07:18 PM
Re: Buying goodies for deer season when its not season
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Just be sure you clean it thoroughly as you already know. I swear by Bore Butter, used it my 3 muzzleloaders, following the directions and it's the best for preserving the finish/barrel. A lot of guys on here don't like it but trust me- it works awesome when used properly. I also would recommend the pre-measured powder pellets. Mz is by far my favorite season!?
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#3166635 - 02/16/13 07:27 PM
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I have the CVA Wolf Magnum...cheap Simmons scope...gun shoots great once you figure out the right combination of ammo and powder pellets. The scope, however, will go out of whack with just a minor whack...btw my ramrod is a little short to but it works. And what CV said, you gotta clean it...alot. The whole setup is worth the money...except for the scope that I have. I'm going to upgrade this fall
Edited by Coach (02/16/13 07:28 PM)
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#3166641 - 02/16/13 07:31 PM
Re: Buying goodies for deer season when its not season
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93civEJ1
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yeah, i am thinking about using the premeasured pellets...but saw someone here recommend doing the blackhorn powder which i say isnt that bad either as long as you just use tubes that you have already premeasured in.
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#3166678 - 02/16/13 07:53 PM
Re: Buying goodies for deer season when its not season
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I haven't been able to shoot the 209 yet, but I hate the pellets. Leave a crud ring, and the 777 to me is messy.
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#3166708 - 02/16/13 08:27 PM
Re: Buying goodies for deer season when its not season
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yeah, i am thinking about using the premeasured pellets...but saw someone here recommend doing the blackhorn powder which i say isnt that bad either as long as you just use tubes that you have already premeasured in.
Bingo! Buy tubes, pre-measure loads at your house, go to the range, pour it in and keep shooting while your pellet-using friends are swabbing between shots. Also, with Blackhorn 209 you clean the rifle using regular oil based gun cleaners that you would use with a centerfire rifle. You don't have to buy separate water based black powder cleaners and barrel lubricants.
Blackhorn 209 vs other propellants
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#3166710 - 02/16/13 08:28 PM
Re: Buying goodies for deer season when its not season
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Dang man....I wish I had known you were looking, I would have made you a heck of a deal on the same gun!
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#3166719 - 02/16/13 08:34 PM
Re: Buying goodies for deer season when its not season
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93civEJ1
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cant say I was looking..lol... just one of those times when youre in walmart and leave with things you probably shouldnt..
on the discussion of cleaning ...so you are saying with the blackhorn 209 I could just use my hoppes solvent cleaner?
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#3166834 - 02/16/13 09:48 PM
Re: Buying goodies for deer season when its not season
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Vermin93
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on the discussion of cleaning ...so you are saying with the blackhorn 209 I could just use my hoppes solvent cleaner?
Affirmative. Blackthorn has their own brand of cleaner that they recommend, but any regular oil based smokeless powder cleaner will work, including Hoppes. You just need to make sure the barrel is nice and dry when you load the Blackhorn.
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#3167365 - 02/17/13 02:34 PM
Re: Buying goodies for deer season when its not season
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You'll like the gun. The ramrod is short, but the end twists out to extend about 4 more inches or so and that makes it long enough. You will want to get a slip on wooden palm saver to use with it though.
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#3167682 - 02/17/13 07:13 PM
Re: Buying goodies for deer season when its not season
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93civEJ1
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You'll like the gun. The ramrod is short, but the end twists out to extend about 4 more inches or so and that makes it long enough. You will want to get a slip on wooden palm saver to use with it though.
Yeah, i went and relooked at the ramrod this morning and unscrewed the extension. At first I thought I might have been missing something. I still gotta get back to wally world when I have time and get that trigger lock taken off of it.
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