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#3165811 - 02/16/13 07:12 AM man i hope lawrence county...
Rockhound
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And surrounding counties Turkey populations have grown this year as they seem to have the last couple. And whatever happened to them in 2004 never happens again here or anywhere else. Id still like to know for sure but i don't think ill get a 100% answer.
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#3166137 - 02/16/13 11:40 AM Re: man i hope lawrence county... [Re: Rockhound]
scn
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
And surrounding counties Turkey populations have grown this year as they seem to have the last couple. And whatever happened to them in 2004 never happens again here or anywhere else. Id still like to know for sure but i don't think ill get a 100% answer.


As far as I know, there isn't a 100% answer. There is some research going on that we hope will give us an idea on what might be happening in some of the southern mid-TN counties.
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#3166317 - 02/16/13 03:03 PM Re: man i hope lawrence county... [Re: scn]
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 Originally Posted By: scn
 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
And surrounding counties Turkey populations have grown this year as they seem to have the last couple. And whatever happened to them in 2004 never happens again here or anywhere else. Id still like to know for sure but i don't think ill get a 100% answer.


As far as I know, there isn't a 100% answer. There is some research going on that we hope will give us an idea on what might be happening in some of the southern mid-TN counties.


Thanks for the reply scn and i was in no way throwing a slur towards twra, its not yalls fault. Ive tried to have discussions with people over the last couple years and all i hear is the limits and such. Mostly coming from people that have not experienced the decline i speak of.

It has not been gradual here at all we had droves of birds, gobblers everywhere and huge fall flocks, to a point that everyone county wide was wandering WTH has happened and this all occurred in one year maybe 2. Back around 2003 or 2004 the best i remember
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#3166654 - 02/16/13 07:39 PM Re: man i hope lawrence county... [Re: Rockhound]
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Yep, same in Hardin County too but numbers seem slightly up this year than from this time last year.
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#3167048 - 02/17/13 09:27 AM Re: man i hope lawrence county... [Re: Rockhound]
scn
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
 Originally Posted By: scn
 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
And surrounding counties Turkey populations have grown this year as they seem to have the last couple. And whatever happened to them in 2004 never happens again here or anywhere else. Id still like to know for sure but i don't think ill get a 100% answer.


As far as I know, there isn't a 100% answer. There is some research going on that we hope will give us an idea on what might be happening in some of the southern mid-TN counties.


Thanks for the reply scn and i was in no way throwing a slur towards twra, its not yalls fault. Ive tried to have discussions with people over the last couple years and all i hear is the limits and such. Mostly coming from people that have not experienced the decline i speak of.

It has not been gradual here at all we had droves of birds, gobblers everywhere and huge fall flocks, to a point that everyone county wide was wandering WTH has happened and this all occurred in one year maybe 2. Back around 2003 or 2004 the best i remember


I certainly didn't take it as a slur. Declines in turkey populations are taking place in several states. It is my understanding that Arkansas is down enough that they drastically cut their limits.

From looking at kill data, it is hard to see where limits are having that big of an effect. To me, it looks like a disease or reproductive rate deal. But, state agencies across the southeast and midwest are aware and are researching the issue. Hopefully they can figure it out.

It is encouraging to hear that things may be getting better.
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#3167397 - 02/17/13 03:19 PM Re: man i hope lawrence county... [Re: scn]
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Yea it is encouraging, i hear more gobblers in my end of the county last year than i have combined in 6 or 7 years. The sad thing is it was 3 but i did see two hens with poults last year.
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#3167428 - 02/17/13 03:40 PM Re: man i hope lawrence county... [Re: Rockhound]
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could it be the predator populations going up? like the coyotes, bob cats seem like I see more and more of them. I know the obviously hunt and kill and eat turkeys, but do you think they are the ones putting in such a dent in the population. also the big flood we had back in 2010 I believe that's the year well I know at our farm 2011 the numbers were down because I think a lot of eggs got washed away and just got ruined. but it seems it I back to normal or better then normal sense 2011 on all of our farms.
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#3167438 - 02/17/13 03:54 PM Re: man i hope lawrence county... [Re: deerhunter10]
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Its been since'04 here so i would think in 9 years they could recoup purty good from bad hatch. Im only about an hour or so south of you dh10 its bad im telling you its bad. Honestly back then i could ride you around in the fall and count 500 turkeys in bottoms within 2 miles of my house and such and then in it was like something killed 95% of the population at once. If i could remember to count i bet i haven't seen 50 turkeys in those same bottoms and such in 7 years. Sure we have coyotes but no more than anywhere else and thats alot of turkeys to kill in a matter of a year or
ear and a half. Ive run 7 trail cameras since for a looooong time and the last predator ive had on cam was a pair of coyote LAST February.


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#3167452 - 02/17/13 04:08 PM Re: man i hope lawrence county... [Re: Rockhound]
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wow that's crazy I have a buddy that lives down there and he says the same thing about to turkeys. its crazy! and sure does suck for yal.
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#3168336 - 02/18/13 09:04 AM Re: man i hope lawrence county... [Re: Rockhound]
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My FIL has been seeing turkeys pretty regularly on his farm near 5 Points and a buddy says he's been seeing more at his place near Iron City. I haven't killed one on either place, ever. So, it would be nice to see them start to come back.

I've heard but can't prove (I don't have first hand knowledge, so I probably shouldn't post) that they were researching to see if the chicken mature farmers were spreading may have been causing some sort of liver disease. It's been a couple years since we talked about it and I'm not sure if this was ever confirmed or found to be false.

My FIL used to spread chicken manure on his fields and it wasn't uncommon to see 10+ coyotes in a morning running around sucking up dead chicken parts and pieces like a vacuum. Man, I used to kill alot of coyotes back then.

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