#3171834 - 02/21/13 10:37 AM
Re: Some Ames Stats...
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BigAl
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Excluding button bucks, what was your number of "legal" buck kills vs "illegal" buck kills. I'm referring to Ames standards.
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#3171907 - 02/21/13 11:51 AM
Re: Some Ames Stats...
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Andy S.
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Excluding button bucks, what was your number of "legal" buck kills vs "illegal" buck kills. I'm referring to Ames standards.
Non-shooters - 7. Three spikes, three 2.5 year olds and one 3.5 year old.
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#3172127 - 02/21/13 03:40 PM
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Mike Belt
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I can think of at least 1 hunter that not only shoots an illegal buck/season but also a couple of button bucks at Ames. Should he be allowed to continue his membership at the same price as a member that doesn't do this?
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#3172513 - 02/21/13 09:08 PM
Re: Some Ames Stats...
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Andy, I'm glad to hear things are going well with your daughter......now tell me where your best spots are 'cause you ain't going to get to hunt much for the next several years...You might get to hunt again when she starts driving and dating if you can afford it. Haha!
I know that mistakes are going to happen but we have to do something.....29 spikes and bb is just too many from a group of 70, seasoned, hunters in my opinion.
Maybe a member gets one free pass on a spike or bb but after the first one any spike or bb counts as a buck against their 2 buck limit that year and if they've already killed 2 bucks and kill a spike or a bb, it counts against their buck total the next year they are a member. A buck is a buck no matter it's age anyway, right?
Personally, I never hunt at Ames without my binoculars and I promise they've saved me a few times.
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#3173118 - 02/22/13 01:33 PM
Re: Some Ames Stats...
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Andy S.
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Correction here: I previously wrote "18,600 acres, with about 13,600 open for hunting to members" when in fact it is more like 16,600 acres open for members with 2,000 acres being safety zones.
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#3173123 - 02/22/13 01:41 PM
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Fascinating stats Mike. Thanks for posting them.
I'm guessing the listed average weights are field-dressed weights?
I hope so, even then the weights are lower than I would have suspected for that area!
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#3173190 - 02/22/13 02:59 PM
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Fascinating stats Mike. Thanks for posting them.
I'm guessing the listed average weights are field-dressed weights?
I hope so, even then the weights are lower than I would have suspected for that area!
Agreed. Even our field-dressed weights would easily top those listed.
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#3173256 - 02/22/13 04:43 PM
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Mike Belt
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Yep, field dressed weights. Our deer aren't very big. Sometimes it makes those racks look better than they actually are.
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#3173287 - 02/22/13 05:28 PM
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Yep, field dressed weights. Our deer aren't very big. Sometimes it makes those racks look better than they actually are.
Would also speculate some of the larger body weight bucks may get a pass because their larger bodies make their racks look smaller.
About 3 years ago, I thought I was taking a 4 1/2-yr-old buck with a 130-plus rack. Buck turned out to field-dress barely over 100 lbs, and the rack scored @ 118. Body size can play a bigger role than many hunters might believe in how the rack size "appears" in the field.
I'd speculate that the specific antler criteria being used may be skewing the harvest at Ames towards the smaller body sized bucks.
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#3173317 - 02/22/13 06:04 PM
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[I'd speculate that the specific antler criteria being used may be skewing the harvest at Ames towards the smaller body sized bucks.
That's an interesting and rational theory.
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