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#3164623 - 02/15/13 06:14 AM Re: Anyone using .223 / 5.56 cal for deer hunting? [Re: mathews338]
BlountArrow
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 Originally Posted By: mathews338
...watch the biggest buck of your life just walk off because it didn't offer the perfect shot angle!


Personally, if shot angle is a factor then I won't shoot any deer regardless of what caliber I might be toting. That's just me. I've never shot a deer with a .223 but have a friend whose young son and daughter shoot one. They have killed deer with it, and so far have had no issue.
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#3164715 - 02/15/13 08:34 AM Re: Anyone using .223 / 5.56 cal for deer hunting? [Re: BlountArrow]
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I shot a small deer this year with my AR. Aimed for neck and dropped it in its tracts. I've also killed 200+ lb hogs with my .22 mag. Its all about shot placement. As with all calibers, you shouldn't shoot if you dont have a good kill shot.
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#3164728 - 02/15/13 08:45 AM Re: Anyone using .223 / 5.56 cal for deer hunting? [Re: Bayou Buck]
BlountArrow
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 Originally Posted By: Bayou Buck
...you shouldn't shoot if you dont have a good kill shot.


A very basic principle that should be in the top 3 when it comes to the "rules afield", yet I hear about or see people veering away from this all the time. Personally, respect for the animal and respect for my responsibility to kill an animal in the most humane way possible excludes me from doing anything different.
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#3164859 - 02/15/13 10:36 AM Re: Anyone using .223 / 5.56 cal for deer hunting? [Re: BlountArrow]
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Yes a 223 can kill a deer. When the 220 Swift 1st came out people were shooting Elk, Moose and even Grizzlies. Sure you'll have some success. A 22 short is a puny little cartridge but you wouldn't shoot your favorite dog with it because there's a good chance the dog will die but that hardly means it's the best cartridge for the job. I'm not one of those guys that thinks you need a 300 Magnum either. Heck, I think a large 30 caliber for deer is a waste unless you just want one but on the other end of the spectrum the 22 centerfires are just too small. If you are looking for something with minimal recoil the 24's or reduced loads in something like the 7mm-08 or 260 Remington are a lot more responsible than a 22.
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#3164870 - 02/15/13 10:39 AM Re: Anyone using .223 / 5.56 cal for deer hunting? [Re: Hunter 257W]
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Regarding head shots with any cartridge, I used to agree that they would either be a kill or clean miss but I disagree now. It would be very easy to hit a jaw or nose and leave a deer with a horrible wound to slowly die. I just don't think head shots are a good idea unless the deer is really close and you KNOw you can make it and how do you ever know 100%. A behind the shoulder has a lot more margin for error if you wobble or the deer moves just as you pull the trigger.
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#3164900 - 02/15/13 11:02 AM Re: Anyone using .223 / 5.56 cal for deer hunting? [Re: Hunter 257W]
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If you plan on using a .223/5.56 on deer, please don't use standard ball ammo. There are manufacturers out there that make hunting rounds in this caliber, designed to do more damage and help kill large game.

A .223/5.56 can drop a human, a hog or a deer, but ball ammo is not made to kill quickly.
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#3164959 - 02/15/13 11:38 AM Re: Anyone using .223 / 5.56 cal for deer hunting? [Re: BlountArrow]
mathews338
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 Originally Posted By: BlountArrow
 Originally Posted By: mathews338
...watch the biggest buck of your life just walk off because it didn't offer the perfect shot angle!


Personally, if shot angle is a factor then I won't shoot any deer regardless of what caliber I might be toting. That's just me. I've never shot a deer with a .223 but have a friend whose young son and daughter shoot one. They have killed deer with it, and so far have had no issue.
don't get me wrong, I don't just throw the gun to my shoulder, find hair in the scope and pull the trigger. I have as much respect for game as anyone and I am as ethical as anyone. but stuff happens regardless of how good a shot you are. bullet placement is key but anyone who has hunted knows that you are not always gonna put it exactly where it needs to be. IMO the percentage of deer that run off wounded to never be found is much higer with the smaller calibers. people can say i'm over compensating for something all they want but I ain't lost one yet and my .338 has killed near 50. again, this is just my opinion so shoot what you want.

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#3165025 - 02/15/13 12:35 PM Re: Anyone using .223 / 5.56 cal for deer hunting? [Re: feldmutze]
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If you plan on using a .223/5.56 on deer, please don't use standard ball ammo. There are manufacturers out there that make hunting rounds in this caliber, designed to do more damage and help kill large game.

A .223/5.56 can drop a human, a hog or a deer, but ball ammo is not made to kill quickly.


Ball ammo is not legal per the hunting regulations
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#3165060 - 02/15/13 01:05 PM Re: Anyone using .223 / 5.56 cal for deer hunting? [Re: feldmutze]
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Seems a bit small to me,but do whatever you like.
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#3165069 - 02/15/13 01:09 PM Re: Anyone using .223 / 5.56 cal for deer hunting? [Re: feldmutze]
Redfred16
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 Originally Posted By: feldmutze
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If you plan on using a .223/5.56 on deer, please don't use standard ball ammo. There are manufacturers out there that make hunting rounds in this caliber, designed to do more damage and help kill large game.

A .223/5.56 can drop a human, a hog or a deer, but ball ammo is not made to kill quickly.


Ball ammo is not legal per the hunting regulations


Even better but I just hate for people to buy M885 and think its okay.
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