#3163096 - 02/13/13 08:33 PM
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what this means in simple English?
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#3163128 - 02/13/13 08:50 PM
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So I need a fertilizer that has 15 lbs of Nitrogen, 60 lbs of Phosphate, and 90-60 lbs of Potash?
WIll Co Op be able to decifer this code? LOL
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#3163136 - 02/13/13 08:54 PM
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the way i interpret it is 0-15 lbs of N, 60 lbs of P205, 90 lbs of K20 @ 60 lbs per acre
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#3163143 - 02/13/13 08:58 PM
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JandSCattleCo
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It means you live on the other side of town from me. Other than that....who knows!
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#3163144 - 02/13/13 08:58 PM
Re: Can someone tell me
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will i be able to ge tit at Co Op? Lime seemed cheap, this seems like it may be more expensive.
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#3163147 - 02/13/13 09:00 PM
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yea, carry that paper up there.. theyll take care of you
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#3163182 - 02/13/13 09:14 PM
Re: Can someone tell me
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thanks!
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#3163251 - 02/13/13 10:05 PM
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pH 7.7 what amount of limestone have you applied?
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#3163347 - 02/14/13 12:48 AM
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does seem to be a bit high pH
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#3163373 - 02/14/13 04:46 AM
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Calcium and Magnesium are sufficient. P and K are what you need, and always generally N. 15 pounds N,60 pounds P205, and 60-90 pounds K20 per acre. In terms of actual NPK that would be 15 pounds N, 26.4 pounds actual P, and 49.8- 74.7 pounds of actual K per acre, but you dont need to know that really. 600 pounds of 10-10-10 would do it and be high on the N side. 500 pounds of 6-12-12 would do it better without alot of excess N. 500 pounds of 12-12-12 would do it with excess N. There are alot of different formulation of fertilizers that wil get you what need, Co-Op should be able to take care of you but I really wouldnt depend on getting someone that will actually know this stuff there, I know you would be SOL in my hometown with that.
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#3163471 - 02/14/13 06:45 AM
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Calcium and Magnesium are sufficient. P and K are what you need, and always generally N. 15 pounds N,60 pounds P205, and 60-90 pounds K20 per acre. In terms of actual NPK that would be 15 pounds N, 26.4 pounds actual P, and 49.8- 74.7 pounds of actual K per acre, but you dont need to know that really. 600 pounds of 10-10-10 would do it and be high on the N side. 500 pounds of 6-12-12 would do it better without alot of excess N. 500 pounds of 12-12-12 would do it with excess N. There are alot of different formulation of fertilizers that wil get you what need, Co-Op should be able to take care of you but I really wouldnt depend on getting someone that will actually know this stuff there, I know you would be SOL in my hometown with that.
Do you know why K20 is listed 90-60 instead of 60-90?
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#3163539 - 02/14/13 07:41 AM
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8 POINTS OR BETTER
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I would put down 300 lbs per acre of 0-20-20.
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#3163768 - 02/14/13 10:54 AM
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Your ph is high enough!
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#3163944 - 02/14/13 01:26 PM
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pH 7.7 what amount of limestone have you applied?
Nothing. that is the first time i did anything with the soil. I just bought it last September.
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#3163946 - 02/14/13 01:28 PM
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Calcium and Magnesium are sufficient. P and K are what you need, and always generally N. 15 pounds N,60 pounds P205, and 60-90 pounds K20 per acre. In terms of actual NPK that would be 15 pounds N, 26.4 pounds actual P, and 49.8- 74.7 pounds of actual K per acre, but you dont need to know that really. 600 pounds of 10-10-10 would do it and be high on the N side. 500 pounds of 6-12-12 would do it better without alot of excess N. 500 pounds of 12-12-12 would do it with excess N. There are alot of different formulation of fertilizers that wil get you what need, Co-Op should be able to take care of you but I really wouldnt depend on getting someone that will actually know this stuff there, I know you would be SOL in my hometown with that.
you don't happen to know what this will run me $ wise do you?
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#3164131 - 02/14/13 04:38 PM
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pH 7.7 what amount of limestone have you applied? Nothing. that is the first time i did anything with the soil. I just bought it last September. Thats amazing
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#3164529 - 02/14/13 11:50 PM
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ROUGH COUNTRY HUNTER
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no lime
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#3165390 - 02/15/13 06:13 PM
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pH 7.7 what amount of limestone have you applied? Nothing. that is the first time i did anything with the soil. I just bought it last September. Thats amazing
Is that good?
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#3165953 - 02/16/13 09:15 AM
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pH 7.7 what amount of limestone have you applied? Nothing. that is the first time i did anything with the soil. I just bought it last September. Thats amazing Is that good? Well,Most places in TN,first soil test on unlimed dirt is probably around 5 on the ph scale,which is poor dirt.7 is neutral.dont know what being a little over 7 means.Maybe SS will see this and answer.
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#3165956 - 02/16/13 09:16 AM
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Football Hunter
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In other words,7 is what most people are shooting for.
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#3165991 - 02/16/13 09:31 AM
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In other words,7 is what most people are shooting for.
cool! lokks like i still need some fertilizer, but i was really worried about how to get the lime to the spots i was wanting to plant on and it seems that i will be able to get the smaller amounts I need in there myself.
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#3165998 - 02/16/13 09:40 AM
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You dont need any lime,which is pretty cool,and very unusual.
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#3166898 - 02/16/13 11:46 PM
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Not all plants "prefer" a neutral soil, but I know more about vegetable gardens than food plots so I could be wrong. I was thinking a slightly acidic soil is preferred by some plants. Not sure what likes to grow in such a basic soil (higher pH) but someone could chime in.
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#3168128 - 02/18/13 04:24 AM
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The pH on that would just not be accurate in my area, there would be a sampling issue. But I dont know about all areas in TN so I cant say it would be a sampling issue in your case. If I were you I would check the general info on that soil type in Web Soil Survey and see if it lined up even close to what your seeing as your pH level.
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#3168566 - 02/18/13 12:21 PM
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A mineral deposit in the ground could have an upwards impact on the soil pH, I guess.
I did a little Wikipedia reading. There's some interesting stuff in there that I didn't know. If your pH reading is correct, you might consider planting brassicas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil_pH
Look at the soil map - it shows the TN region as being mostly acidic, with a small finger of neutral soil. Of course those are just averages, so it's not impossible to have slightly alkaline soil. But as others have said, it would be unusual.
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#3168608 - 02/18/13 01:16 PM
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Your soil soil pH is fine. Optium range for pH is 6.5-7.5. Your P is moderate and Potasium is low. Apply (2) 50 lbs bags of 0-60-60 per acre. Try to work this in to the soil before planting. Recommendation for N is 0-15 lbs per acre. I would wait for the seed to sprout before applying any nitrogen. If you feel you need it, then add 50 lbs bag per acre of 30-0-0.
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