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#3162703 - 02/13/13 04:01 PM Pedicle damage?
catman529
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Maybe this is why his right antler grew funny. Pedicles damage, or something else?

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#3162783 - 02/13/13 05:18 PM Re: Pedicle damage? [Re: catman529]
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Yep I'd say so.. Looks like damage to the skull to or maybe it's just the picture.
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#3162817 - 02/13/13 05:42 PM Re: Pedicle damage? [Re: lpo1981]
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Brain abscess caused by either rubbing or fighting (pressure on the antler opened the skull along the suture-line, allowing bacteria to enter the brain). Very common. In fact, may be the main form of natural death in bucks. And yes, that will cause the antler deformation, but I think, ultimately, it also caused the buck's death. VERY good eye and cool find.
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#3162837 - 02/13/13 06:01 PM Re: Pedicle damage? [Re: BSK]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Brain abscess caused by either rubbing or fighting (pressure on the antler opened the skull along the suture-line, allowing bacteria to enter the brain). Very common. In fact, may be the main form of natural death in bucks. And yes, that will cause the antler deformation, but I think, ultimately, it also caused the buck's death. VERY good eye and cool find.
so the buck obviously got the abscess before this set of antlers grew. Would it really take that long to kill the deer?
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#3162911 - 02/13/13 06:42 PM Re: Pedicle damage? [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Brain abscess caused by either rubbing or fighting (pressure on the antler opened the skull along the suture-line, allowing bacteria to enter the brain). Very common. In fact, may be the main form of natural death in bucks. And yes, that will cause the antler deformation, but I think, ultimately, it also caused the buck's death. VERY good eye and cool find.
so the buck obviously got the abscess before this set of antlers grew. Would it really take that long to kill the deer?

Yes it could live with it for several years if I'm not mistaken. It usually starts as an injury to the bucks pedicles or skull from fighting and over time eventually the infections makes it into the the brain eventually causing death.

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#3162925 - 02/13/13 06:53 PM Re: Pedicle damage? [Re: lpo1981]
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It may also have started as just a minor injory that caused the abnormal growth and the buck ended up fighting or rubbing too hard causing the injury to worsen.

Lots of possibilities though.
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#3163005 - 02/13/13 07:40 PM Re: Pedicle damage? [Re: Master Chief]
catman529
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Well we may now have a cause of death. Bet the yotes got him quick too. Maybe there's another brute roaming the thicket...
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#3163298 - 02/13/13 10:53 PM Re: Pedicle damage? [Re: catman529]
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Nice picture. Can you see into the brain cavity between the suture and the pedicle?
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#3163334 - 02/14/13 12:18 AM Re: Pedicle damage? [Re: plinker22]
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 Originally Posted By: plinker22
Nice picture. Can you see into the brain cavity between the suture and the pedicle?
it's a bit dark and gummed up, I dont know if it goes all the way into the brain, but you can see stress cracks or something around the pedicle on the front of the head. At first I thought it was because the antler was getting ready to shed, but now it looks more like the stress marks from a skull cracking fight with another buck... who knows.
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#3163672 - 02/14/13 09:25 AM Re: Pedicle damage? [Re: catman529]
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I was thinking it was an abscess also. Grant Woods was talking about them a few weeks ago on his website on growingdeer.tv. Thats one of the fist things they look for when a skull is found.
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