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#3162541 - 02/13/13 02:10 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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if they didnt put the stupid flight control wad in there i would love to shoot them.
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#3162548 - 02/13/13 02:16 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: REN]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: REN
if they didnt put the stupid flight control wad in there i would love to shoot them.

Some people are saying it doesn't matter, while others say not to use the flight control wad in a ported choke.
My 20 gauge doesn't have a ported choke, and nothing else even comes close to those Federals in the 20 ga.

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#3162554 - 02/13/13 02:21 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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I have a ported choke and I have never heard not to use flite control wads in them. I have used the Federal flite control wad lead loads and it worked great.
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#3162563 - 02/13/13 02:27 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: woodsman87]
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its not so much the "ported" part that causes the issue. You are not suppose to use it in a wad stripping choke. From all the tests ive done with standard ones there seems to be a difference in the chokes i use.

Maybe i would and maybe it wouldnt but with the price is that high i dont really want to buy them to see IF they will work.
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#3162586 - 02/13/13 02:47 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
Or, we could just consider going with the Federal Heavyweights! \:D
I have given it a lot of thought more times than once over the last few years, but I just cannot find a reason to stray from my current setup that has proven itself time and time again in the field, under all conditions I have faced thus far. With that said, I could very easily understand and believe Federal Heavyweight users that are extremely pleased with their killing performance, considering their density and muzzle velocity.
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#3162596 - 02/13/13 02:52 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
If you can find them in a #7, I highly recommend you buy them. But good luck finding those #7's except in 20 gauge.
Here you go Wes. 12 gauge 3.5" Heavyweight #7s
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#3162636 - 02/13/13 03:01 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Andy S.]
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Thanks, Andy.
Am ordering, and will see what happens.
My ONLY disappointment with these Federal Heavyweights is they're only putting 1 7/8 ounce of shot in a 3 1/2" 12 ga. shell! One would think if they can find a way to get 1 1/2 ounce of shot in a 20 ga. shell, they could get at least a couple ounces in a 12 ga. shell!

But those pellets are coming out at a significantly higher velocity than the H-13 loads! Now, if they'll just pattern uniformly and dense enough, we have a winner.

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#3162643 - 02/13/13 03:04 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Yesir, anytime.
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#3162695 - 02/13/13 03:54 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
Thanks, Andy.
Am ordering, and will see what happens.
My ONLY disappointment with these Federal Heavyweights is they're only putting 1 7/8 ounce of shot in a 3 1/2" 12 ga. shell! One would think if they can find a way to get 1 1/2 ounce of shot in a 20 ga. shell, they could get at least a couple ounces in a 12 ga. shell!

But those pellets are coming out at a significantly higher velocity than the H-13 loads! Now, if they'll just pattern uniformly and dense enough, we have a winner.


Probably has to do with the pressures..... and shot weight.

It's more of a safety issue for Federal.... for commercial loads... keep from blowing something up at a 12ga level. A handloader could up it to 2oz pretty easy I'm sure, with the time in load developement/testing, then have it tested at the lab to make sure it is still safe for the user....
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#3162711 - 02/13/13 04:08 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
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 Originally Posted By: Grizzly Johnson
Probably has to do with the pressures..... and shot weight.

I'd say you're probably right about it being something to do with the pressures. BUT, darn ironic that they have put out a 1 1/2-ounce 20 gauge load! Even the Heavy-13 20 ga. loads are only 1 1/4-ounce of shot. No one else even comes close to the potency of Federal's 20 ga. turkey load.

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