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#3164993 - 02/15/13 12:03 PM Re: 22 hornet [Re: SEC]
Hunter 257W
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 Originally Posted By: SEC
The Hornet was invented to take down the largest of game with one well placed shot. Spine or brain shots is where it shines.


I disagree. The 22 Hornet was one of the 1st pest/varmint cartridges intended for groundhogs, crows and such. It was never promoted as a big game cartridge.

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#3165551 - 02/15/13 08:37 PM Re: 22 hornet [Re: Hunter 257W]
ncboyhuntintn
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Registered: 10/24/10
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Its for a 7yr old eager to hunt, its not an adult so the best other option is probably a .223 or maybe .243 Seven is pretty young to be getting kicked hard.
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#3165690 - 02/15/13 11:12 PM Re: 22 hornet [Re: Hunter 257W]
Locksley
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Registered: 10/23/01
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Loc: Antioch TN

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 Originally Posted By: Hunter 257W
 Originally Posted By: SEC
The Hornet was invented to take down the largest of game with one well placed shot. Spine or brain shots is where it shines.


I disagree. The 22 Hornet was one of the 1st pest/varmint cartridges intended for groundhogs, crows and such. It was never promoted as a big game cartridge.


The 22 Hornet was what we used to use for shots at groundhogs up close and it was good for that , the 25 calibers were the old deer cartridges back in the day. I believe you'll find this round to be a documented polar bear killer. It was used in the Air Force survival rifle at one time also.

Butchers use a .22 to kill bovine so the answer is yes it will. It boils down to choice and what "should" a hunter use and only you can answer that one. As far as I am concerned I believe in a larger bullet because it can deliver more energy due to a much larger surface diameter. Using a combination of transferable energy and penetration is my preference. I believe that us hunters owe the animal we are hunting a reasonably quick death. I also want as many options regarding shots too so I would not want to limit myself to strictly broadside shots at close range. For me the answer is no. For anyone else it falls into what they can live with.

The 250 Savage was introduced by savage in 1914 as the 250-3000 Savage capable of achieving 3,000 feet per second velocity with a 87 grain 25 caliber bullet, years later the 3,000 was dropped to become the 250 Savage.
The original designer of the 250 savage was Charles Newton who had sold his cartridge rights to Savage. Mr. Newton had designed the 250 Savage to be loaded with a 100 grain bullet with a velocity of 2,800 feet per second, at which he claimed that the best accuracy and killing power of the cartridge would be realized.
The 250 Savage is a dual purpose cartridge it can be used for varmints sending a 75 grain bullet out the muzzle at 3,200 fps., making this a good varmint round or it can be used as a big game cartridge sending 100 grain bullets out the muzzle at speeds of 2,800 fps., it has sufficient power out to the 250 yard mark for deer sized game animals.
The 250 savage has been chambered over the years in several different rifle action types with different rifling twist rates in the barrels and they range from the original Savage model 99 lever action 1 in 14" twist to Savage model 110 1 in 10" twist.
The 250 Savage with the accuracy, power and effectiveness it offers down range recoils very little to the shooters shoulder and is highly recommended for youth and recoil conscious shooters, if ever the case was to be made for a highly accurate and effective light weight youth rifle cartridge the 250 Savage would be the best choice of all currently manufactured rifle cartridges.
250 Savage Barrel Specifications.
Common Barrel Twist Rate - 1/14 - 1/12 - 1/10
Bore Groove Diameter - .257"
250 Savage Reloading Specifications.
Bullet Diameter - .257"
Maximum Case Length - 1.912"
Trimmed Case Length - 1.902"
Primer Size - Large Rifle
250 Savage Loading Data Hints.
The 250 Savage responds well to faster burning powders such as i.m.r. 3031, 4064 and 4320. When reloading for the 250 Savage cartridge it is a real good idea to check the rifling twist rate as this will have a big effect on accuracy. 1 in 14" twist will give excellent accuracy with the lighter bullets available and the 1 in 10" twist does its best with the heavier bullets available.
250 Savage Reloading Data.
Hodgdon Reloading Data Center.
250 Savage Trajectory and Hunting Applications.
This is a down range trajectory chart for the 250 Savage cartridge with the scope mounted 1.5 inches above the bore center line plus if you were using this load, its effective hunting bullet energy range with well placed shots on,
Varmint / Predator size game, such as Bobcat, Cougar, Coyote.
Deer size game, such as Antelope, Blacktail, Hogs, Javelina, Mule, Whitetail.
Elk size game, such as Caribou, Black Bear, Sheep.
Moose size game, such as Brown Bear.
Bullet diameter .257"
Bullet weight 100 grains
Bullet ballistic coeffecient .357
Bullet velocity 2,900 feet per second
Range
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Copyright 2001 - 2010
By Cabelas

http://www.fieldandstream.com/answers/gu...-easy-find-ammo


Edited by Locksley (02/15/13 11:17 PM)
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#3165720 - 02/16/13 01:46 AM Re: 22 hornet [Re: Locksley]
TNRino
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Registered: 11/15/11
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I would def not try it. To many possibilities of injuring. To me it would be un ethical imo. I would recommend a 243 with a muzzle brake such as browning boss. If you don't want to spend the money on a browning or a new gun check with your local gunsmith to see about adding one to your existing rifle. I have 2 browning a-bolt 270s with the boss and there is almost no recoil. Many muzzle brake manufactures claim 30-50% recoil reduction. The only complaint about them is that they are loud but they WORK.
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#3165786 - 02/16/13 06:47 AM Re: 22 hornet [Re: Hunter 257W]
r'ville a-bolt
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lets get the kids in the woods 22 hornet or bazooka whatever they can shoot comfortable and accurate.Good luck to your friends kid hope he kills a giant.
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