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#316179 - 07/27/07 06:08 PM Cuddeback question
sharris10
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For anyone that has a Cuddeback - advice please. The manual states to put the flash card in after you have turned on the power and the information has been shown but the sticker on the camera itself states not to put the flash card in except when the camera is off. I don't want to mess up the flash card and just wanted to know any thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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#316191 - 07/27/07 06:15 PM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: sharris10]
Wes Parrish
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Which Cuddecrap do you have?

I really don't think it matters when you insert the flash card.
Only matters when you take it out.

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#316199 - 07/27/07 06:18 PM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: Wes Parrish]
sharris10
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I have the Excite. I have had some issues with the card already (I hope its the card). In testing it out it took some pictures and worked fine then a couple of days later - the camera is operating and taking pictures but it will not save the images to the flash card.
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#316205 - 07/27/07 06:23 PM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: sharris10]
Wes Parrish
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You have my sympathy in owning a 2006 or later version Cuddecrap. The 2005 and earlier models were great.
(I have a 2006 No Work.)
P.S. Wait until you try to change the batteries in the field without taking it off the tree.

If possible, the best advise I can give you is take it back where you got it and get a full refund --- then go get you a great digital cam for about the same $.

Otherwise, you'll have to send it to Cuddeback to be repaired, only it will still be a Cuddecrap compared to other cams now available for less $.

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#316383 - 07/27/07 09:03 PM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: Wes Parrish]
sharris10
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Alright, now I am offically ticked. Put in a new flashcard tonight and the same thing.....it won't save the pictures to the card. I am not trying to open a can of worms here but from experience, what is the best camera to buy for the money....I just want something that is reliable with a decent trigger speed.
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#316428 - 07/27/07 09:24 PM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: sharris10]
Wes Parrish
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Not sure what you paid for that Excite, but you can get a new Homebrew from OutdoorBob for @ $350. These "homebrews" are called that because they use real Sony digital cameras with higher quality triggers than you'll find on commercial cams. Most commercial cams are using cheap image processors instead of quality cameras. These homebrews typically use 4.0 mp Sony cameras. I have the P41 model myself. They are light years ahead of any Cuddeback.

IMO, right now, for the money, the 2007 Cuddebacks are the worst thing on the market.

For a lot of info on various models available, check out this game cam rating service:
http://www.chasingame.com

And here's where my P41 "homebrew" came from:
http://www.gotchatrailcams.com

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#316821 - 07/28/07 08:01 AM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: sharris10]
WRF
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If you have not already, go check out the site chasingame. It is an excellent site. I know the problem of Cuddies not writing to cards was addressed last year at length although I think most had the problems with the No Flash cameras not writing. I have a '06 Expert and two Excites. No writing problems on three different brands of compact flash cards. I do not know when it is best to insert and remove the card, but for me the cameras are always off. The cameras are very fast, but my main complaint is that the batteries go very, very fast. For commercials, I also have Stealthcams I390's. The batteries seem to last at least 3x as long as the Cuddies. The Stealths are horribly slow, however, if on a feed station or lick, it does not matter much. They are worthless on trails.

All that being said, as mentioned, think about going the homebrew route. Fast, reliable, long battery life.... Put them together yourself or like me and some others buy from Outdoorbob. His cameras are excellent in quality and value.

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#316916 - 07/28/07 09:50 AM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: WRF]
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Go homebrew. You won't be sorry. There isn't a commercial camera available that can touch the quality of a homebrew.
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#316957 - 07/28/07 10:26 AM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: BSK]
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bsk how long is battery life and how many pics are you getting. i only get to check my cams once a month or so
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#316968 - 07/28/07 10:36 AM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: stirrat]
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stirrat,

If you can only get out once a month or so, I would buy a homebrew with extra battery power (other than the standard 2 AAs in the camera). Although I've heard good things about using lithium AAs in the camera. I'm going to be testing those soon.
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#316977 - 07/28/07 10:54 AM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: BSK]
Wes Parrish
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One advantage to the homebrews using 2 AA batteries is that the unit itself is smaller (and lighter to carry). The smaller size means it's less likely to be seen by a trespasser. And being smaller & lighter, it's more practical to carry one of these in your fanny pack while hunting, as you'll commonly find places to place a cam while you're hunting.
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#317502 - 07/28/07 10:16 PM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: Wes Parrish]
outdoorbob
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Me and my dad own a cuddeback on halfers. It's a 2006 Expert. Just got it back from Non-Typical about 3 weeks ago. It quit taking night photos. Got it back and it was taking night photos, no problem. Put it back out and retrieved the flash card last week and the pictures are all this weird pink and bluish color. Can't make out any forms at all. Guess it's going back to NT. It's a piece of junk. I'd sell it, but my dad wants to keep it.
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#317536 - 07/28/07 10:33 PM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: outdoorbob]
stirrat
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the 05 model cudds were so much better. they really screwed those cameras up. don't know why they changed them to inferior units
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#317705 - 07/29/07 12:57 AM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: stirrat]
outdoorbob
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Amen. Definitely one of the biggest bonehead moves ever. Looks like they would get smart and go back to what was working. Of course if they did it would hurt my business, because that's mainly who is buying my cams. Old Cuddeback customers.
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#317816 - 07/29/07 08:58 AM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: outdoorbob]
Wes Parrish
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In the free enterprise system, the companies that prosper are those which offer something better at a fair or lower price.

When Cuddeback first came out with their 1.3 mp digital cam, they were offering one of the lowest cost digital cams available WITH A FAST TRIGGER SPEED (approximately 1 second). Because this same group (Non-Typical/Cuddeback) had sold the awesome DC-200 film cams, they had a huge customer base of happy clients who immeditely purchased lots of the new Cuddeback digitals.

Then, for about the same price, Cuddeback came out with a 3.0 mp digital, which was everything the 1.3 had been plus better quality images. Cuddeback prospered and probably, by far, had the largest group of happy customers of any company selling game cams.

Then came 2006.

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#318395 - 07/29/07 06:46 PM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: Wes Parrish]
cmoses
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so what you all are saying is that the 06/07 cuddebacks suck glad to know before i buy one ty
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#318828 - 07/30/07 07:11 AM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: cmoses]
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Correct. Don't bother.
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#318879 - 07/30/07 07:51 AM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: BSK]
Trapper John
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I doubt I'll ever get anything other than a Homebrew cam now, but I can't help but wonder if Cuddeback realizes where the mistakes were made and will go back to the quality of pre-2006 in the future.
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#318925 - 07/30/07 08:20 AM Re: Cuddeback question [Re: Trapper John]
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If they want to stay in business they will. They can only live off their past good reputation for so long.
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