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#3171783 - 02/21/13 09:56 AM Re: Change In Hunting Reg's? [Re: scn]
Frank G
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Outstanding BSK. I agree with SCN post this one at the VERY top. This should be submitted to all the major publications. Very well penned.
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#3171785 - 02/21/13 09:58 AM Re: Change In Hunting Reg's? [Re: BlountArrow]
Bayou Buck
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Great explanation Bryan. Even in ag areas where the density is pretty high, it can seem alot higher if you are surrounded by a few hundred acres of open fields. Most of the daylight activity will be in the surrounding woodlots which will make anyone who hunts those areas think they have more deer per square mile.
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#3171860 - 02/21/13 11:07 AM Re: Change In Hunting Reg's? [Re: BlountArrow]
scn
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 Originally Posted By: BlountArrow
Fixed it \:D

Bryan,

That post should be pinned at the top of this forum.

GREAT explanation!

sn


Thanks! Spelling has never been a strong point for me.
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#3171929 - 02/21/13 12:08 PM Re: Change In Hunting Reg's? [Re: WRbowhunter]
Rockhound
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It really does vary and depends alot on the person putting the time into finding the deer. We are blessed in being covered up with them and i hope it continues to be that way for man many years. I seen 30 something different bucks this past season no telling how many does and i hunted 4 primary stands all season and 1 of those i only hunted 4 times and only hunted outside of those spots 4 or 5 times. I honestly could leave my house at this very moment and bet good money that i can have a deer of some kind down in an hour or less. I live in a high agriculture area with plenty to eat. Its nothing in early September to ride around within 5 miles of my properties and see a couple hundred deer in bean fields.
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#3172106 - 02/21/13 03:17 PM Re: Change In Hunting Reg's? [Re: Rockhound]
BSK
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The above discription is why those who run a photo census invariably come up with WAY higher deer density figures than what actually exist.

Best estimates for my area are a deer density of 20-25 deer per square mile. Since I own and census 3/4 of a square mile (75% of a square mile), my censuses should find around 15-19 deer. Yet over a 6 month period, I've picked up over 40 unique bucks, and the calculated number of does and fawns greatly exceeds that. In fact, I've come up with calculated deer densities of over 150 deer per square mile.

The standard photo census technique can produce very accurate numbers for unique bucks using the property, as well as local adult sex ratio and fawn recruitment rate numbers. But it absolutely does NOT produce accurate deer density numbers, because deer move around so much over time. Ans the longer you run the census, the wilder the density estimates will get.
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#3172113 - 02/21/13 03:27 PM Re: Change In Hunting Reg's? [Re: BSK]
woodchuckc
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BSK's point is well taken, especially this time of year when the does and yearlings are bunched up. For example, yesterday evening on the way home from work I counted the deer I saw from the road in the last mile before I got home. There were 22 total in 3 bunches, then 4 in another bunch in my front yard and another 22 in the 6 acre field behind my house for a total of 46. That is a little higher than usual, but I easily average seeing 30 or so every evening this time of year. I don't think that I have an average of over 40 deer per square mile in my overall area of Hickman County especially right after deer season, but this time of year when there is not much for them to eat in the woods they cluster around the fields near my house instead of the few thousand acres of old timber company land.
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#3172124 - 02/21/13 03:34 PM Re: Change In Hunting Reg's? [Re: woodchuckc]
Mike Belt
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Speaking of deer in fields...I hunt Ames. We have quite a few deer and a bunch of ag fields. We kill quite a few deer out of those fields but no matter what the deer density is hunting pressure can negate that visual aspect. After hunting season has started you're hard pressed to see deer in our fields. Even driving around the place most of the time you can't buy seeing deer in the fields. When I leave our place headed home 60 miles away I see deer in fields the entire trip...almost every trip.
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#3172714 - 02/22/13 05:52 AM Re: Change In Hunting Reg's? [Re: TN RDG RNR]
roscopeecotrane
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I heard the federal government is gonna tax our deer kills by pounds to help fund free pizza, cell phones, and health care for everyone.
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#3172826 - 02/22/13 08:21 AM Re: Change In Hunting Reg's? [Re: roscopeecotrane]
Frank G
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 Originally Posted By: roscopeecotrane
I heard the federal government is gonna tax our deer kills by pounds to help fund free pizza, cell phones, and health care for everyone.

Now there is one I have never heard before.
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#3172914 - 02/22/13 09:40 AM Re: Change In Hunting Reg's? [Re: roscopeecotrane]
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 Originally Posted By: roscopeecotrane
I heard the federal government is gonna tax our deer kills by pounds to help fund free pizza, cell phones, and health care for everyone.


Please don't give the vote-buying Dems any more ideas! ;\)
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