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#3160960 - 02/12/13 11:10 AM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: Hollar Hunter]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
If you got a pressure washer or access to one you could help that process along a great deal!
yeah I have heard of that for doing euros. but I want to be careful with the nose bones, don't want to break em. the nose has "melted" onto the bones and I want it to rot its way off... also I had to pry the skull off the spine, so the spinal cord and brain are still intact. rather let the bugs go to work for a while, than have rotted brains sprayed all over me. \:D
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#3160987 - 02/12/13 11:30 AM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
If you got a pressure washer or access to one you could help that process along a great deal!
yeah I have heard of that for doing euros. but I want to be careful with the nose bones, don't want to break em. the nose has "melted" onto the bones and I want it to rot its way off... also I had to pry the skull off the spine, so the spinal cord and brain are still intact. rather let the bugs go to work for a while, than have rotted brains sprayed all over me. \:D


Where's the fun in that? \:D
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#3160992 - 02/12/13 11:32 AM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: Hollar Hunter]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
If you got a pressure washer or access to one you could help that process along a great deal!
yeah I have heard of that for doing euros. but I want to be careful with the nose bones, don't want to break em. the nose has "melted" onto the bones and I want it to rot its way off... also I had to pry the skull off the spine, so the spinal cord and brain are still intact. rather let the bugs go to work for a while, than have rotted brains sprayed all over me. \:D


Where's the fun in that? \:D
the insects will have a LOT of fun for me. \:D
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#3161020 - 02/12/13 11:52 AM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: Mudbone]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
If you dont like the B%c system,why use it?Or why bother?
the kid just can't do right by you can he?

I was thinking the same....

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#3162006 - 02/13/13 06:32 AM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: geezer]
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A 150 inch grossing buck (free ranging public land) is a buck that most of us will never even see, let alone kill. And this includes ALL hunters all over America.

Amazes me how many times people throw out the 150 inch mark like it is a common thing.

And in Tennessee, a 150 inch buck is truly an exception.

Catman, that is a BEAUTY!!!
I can't wait to see your finished mount.
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#3162129 - 02/13/13 08:35 AM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: 102]
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 Originally Posted By: 102
A 150 inch grossing buck (free ranging public land) is a buck that most of us will never even see, let alone kill. And this includes ALL hunters all over America.


I would definitely agree with that, at least for hunters in the Southeast (south of KY). Most will never see with their own eyes while hunting a 150+ gross buck. Now on trail-camera (at night) or way off in some soybean field in summer, maybe.
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#3162874 - 02/13/13 06:22 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: 102]
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 Originally Posted By: 102
A 150 inch grossing buck (free ranging public land) is a buck that most of us will never even see, let alone kill. And this includes ALL hunters all over America.

Amazes me how many times people throw out the 150 inch mark like it is a common thing.

And in Tennessee, a 150 inch buck is truly an exception.

Catman, that is a BEAUTY!!!
I can't wait to see your finished mount.
Very true. Most wont see a 140 gross, much less 150. Well stated!
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#3163388 - 02/14/13 05:04 AM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: tickweed]
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BSK,
I wish I were more adept at this computer posting images thing. I have hours and hours of raw video of deer. I even have a MONSTER 200 inch category buck...at a distance, in a bean field, in the late summer. In velvet. He is probably the largest live buck I have ever seen.

He was just North of Ky.

In 30 plus years of bowhunting in the SE, I have seen exactly ONE buck that gross scored over 150 (we all know where that buck is now).

As soon as I ventured North of Ky., where average antler class per age grew, things got better for antler score.

And still, on PUBLIC land, 150's are very rare!

So I have concluded, in MOST cases, that antler size has nothing to do with hunter skill or ability level. NOTHING!

It has EVERYTHING to do with a hunters geographic location.

While this does sound a little harsh, the exception is when you have a hunter who is consistently killing older age class bucks carrying large antlers (per that geographic area) no matter where they hunt.

And in order to do this, for all but the wealthiest of us, this usually means public land as few could afford to hunt privately owned land for yearly hunts in multiple states (locations).

And to do this on public land in multiple states, (which is what more of us could afford) consistently, year after year (or every other) is extremely difficult.

(Wouldn't you agree Winchester???)
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#3164078 - 02/14/13 03:40 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: 102]
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 Originally Posted By: 102
So I have concluded, in MOST cases, that antler size has nothing to do with hunter skill or ability level. NOTHING!

It has EVERYTHING to do with a hunters geographic location.


Completely agree with you 102. In fact, I know of one general location in TN where seeing 150+ (or very close to it) bucks in late summer beanfields is not that uncommon. But besided that one general location, seeing a 150+ anywhere in TN is pretty darn rare.

These images (poor quality due to being stripped from very long-range video) or from the area of Tn I mentioned above. I don't know what the guy on the right scores, but he's a stud. I've seen quite a few bucks of this size in this one area:





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#3164188 - 02/14/13 05:35 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: BSK]
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I see quite a few 140's in the basin every year driving around looking at bucks during the summer waiting on season but there certainly is a BIG BIG drop off when you start talking about 150+ bucks. I do believe that spot above has seen a lot of development in the past few years. Does it still hold them like it use to?

Edited by Hollar Hunter (02/14/13 05:47 PM)
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