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#3160476 - 02/11/13 10:12 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: Master Chief]
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Question for BSK.

How would you measure the 2nd 3rd and 4th points on the right antler if you were measuring for typical only?All coming off the main beam? Or all 3 coming off of the G2?

My thoughts is they all dont come off the main beam.

If this would be the correct way to measure it then the circumfrance measurements would be considerably less.
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#3160509 - 02/11/13 10:59 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: Mr.Bro]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bro
Question for BSK.

How would you measure the 2nd 3rd and 4th points on the right antler if you were measuring for typical only?All coming off the main beam? Or all 3 coming off of the G2?

My thoughts is they all dont come off the main beam.

If this would be the correct way to measure it then the circumfrance measurements would be considerably less.
my thoughts are those points all come off the main beam, but from the same origin, with lots of palmation in between, kind of like a frog's foot. But I'm not an official scorer. I will definitely measure that mass though \:D
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#3160511 - 02/11/13 11:01 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: Master Chief]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
Above average if he's 3.5 and grosses 150+...I'd guess an average Nashville basin buck at 3.5 would be between 110-120 but that's just my observations over the years.
 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
lol 150 probably isnt even average for WI at 3.5
yeah some of these bucks have me brain washed, I guess 150s gross is a bit above average...

my 3.5 year old buck that I killed on november 16 was average, green grossed 112"
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#3160668 - 02/12/13 07:24 AM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
Above average if he's 3.5 and grosses 150+...I'd guess an average Nashville basin buck at 3.5 would be between 110-120 but that's just my observations over the years.
 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
lol 150 probably isnt even average for WI at 3.5
yeah some of these bucks have me brain washed, I guess 150s gross is a bit above average...

my 3.5 year old buck that I killed on november 16 was average, green grossed 112"



Way above average! I didn't see his teeth did you post them and get 3.5 as the consensus?
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#3160751 - 02/12/13 08:35 AM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: Hollar Hunter]
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Gross score is really all I care about as Im not worried about how perfect a deer is side to side!
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#3160825 - 02/12/13 09:42 AM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
For a Williamson county bottomland 3.5 year old, is this rack average or above average? If you have the data on that.


153 gross-gross non-typical is above average for any age-class anywhere in America. I've been exchanging data with a manager that manages trophy properties in one of the top big-buck areas of IL, and from his data, the average fully mature buck in this top-quality environment (some of the best in the whitetails entire range) averages in the mid 140s gross.
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#3160843 - 02/12/13 09:59 AM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
Above average if he's 3.5 and grosses 150+...I'd guess an average Nashville basin buck at 3.5 would be between 110-120 but that's just my observations over the years.
 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
lol 150 probably isnt even average for WI at 3.5
yeah some of these bucks have me brain washed, I guess 150s gross is a bit above average...

my 3.5 year old buck that I killed on november 16 was average, green grossed 112"



Way above average! I didn't see his teeth did you post them and get 3.5 as the consensus?
haven't posted yet, the jaws are still stuck to the skull with rotted meat, lol.... I looked at em though and they look like 3.5 or possibly 4.5.

 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: catman529
For a Williamson county bottomland 3.5 year old, is this rack average or above average? If you have the data on that.


153 gross-gross non-typical is above average for any age-class anywhere in America. I've been exchanging data with a manager that manages trophy properties in one of the top big-buck areas of IL, and from his data, the average fully mature buck in this top-quality environment (some of the best in the whitetails entire range) averages in the mid 140s gross.
that's interesting. Too bad this one died this year, could have been a hoss next season that I could have had a chance to put an arrow into...
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#3160869 - 02/12/13 10:10 AM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: catman529]
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I'd bet he's 4.5
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#3160939 - 02/12/13 11:00 AM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: Hollar Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
I'd bet he's 4.5
when I looked it just didn't seem to be enough wear on the molars for 4.5. Will update of course whenever I pull the jaws. right now it's "brewing" under the deck
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#3160943 - 02/12/13 11:02 AM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: catman529]
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If you got a pressure washer or access to one you could help that process along a great deal!
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