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#3162537 - 02/13/13 02:07 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Andy S.]
Wes Parrish
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Or, we could just consider going with the Federal Heavyweights! \:D
They ARE 15g/cc, trumping the density of everything else out there in a commercial load. If you can find them in a #7, I highly recommend you buy them. But good luck finding those #7's except in 20 gauge.

Check out this comparison below of the Federal Heavyweight #7 pellets vs. Standard Lead #5 pellets!
http://www.chuckhawks.com/federal_20gauge_heavyweight_turkey_load.htm

I was unable to find the Federal Heavyweight 12 gauge in any shot size smaller than #6's last year. Because the shot was SO dense, those loads had a lot fewer pellets, and the #6's just weren't giving the pattern density I wanted. But if could find them in a #7 . . . . . . !!! Better yet, wish they would make them available in a #8 Heavyweight. In the meantime, I'm shooting Hevi-13 straight #7's and/or the H13 "Blends" as my chambered 12 ga. turkey load. (The 20 ga. is carrying the #7 Heavyweights.)

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#3162541 - 02/13/13 02:10 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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if they didnt put the stupid flight control wad in there i would love to shoot them.
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#3162548 - 02/13/13 02:16 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: REN]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: REN
if they didnt put the stupid flight control wad in there i would love to shoot them.

Some people are saying it doesn't matter, while others say not to use the flight control wad in a ported choke.
My 20 gauge doesn't have a ported choke, and nothing else even comes close to those Federals in the 20 ga.

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#3162554 - 02/13/13 02:21 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Wes Parrish]
woodsman87
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I have a ported choke and I have never heard not to use flite control wads in them. I have used the Federal flite control wad lead loads and it worked great.
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#3162563 - 02/13/13 02:27 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: woodsman87]
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its not so much the "ported" part that causes the issue. You are not suppose to use it in a wad stripping choke. From all the tests ive done with standard ones there seems to be a difference in the chokes i use.

Maybe i would and maybe it wouldnt but with the price is that high i dont really want to buy them to see IF they will work.
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#3162586 - 02/13/13 02:47 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Wes Parrish]
Andy S.
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
Or, we could just consider going with the Federal Heavyweights! \:D
I have given it a lot of thought more times than once over the last few years, but I just cannot find a reason to stray from my current setup that has proven itself time and time again in the field, under all conditions I have faced thus far. With that said, I could very easily understand and believe Federal Heavyweight users that are extremely pleased with their killing performance, considering their density and muzzle velocity.
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#3162596 - 02/13/13 02:52 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Wes Parrish]
Andy S.
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
If you can find them in a #7, I highly recommend you buy them. But good luck finding those #7's except in 20 gauge.
Here you go Wes. 12 gauge 3.5" Heavyweight #7s
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#3162636 - 02/13/13 03:01 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Andy S.]
Wes Parrish
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Thanks, Andy.
Am ordering, and will see what happens.
My ONLY disappointment with these Federal Heavyweights is they're only putting 1 7/8 ounce of shot in a 3 1/2" 12 ga. shell! One would think if they can find a way to get 1 1/2 ounce of shot in a 20 ga. shell, they could get at least a couple ounces in a 12 ga. shell!

But those pellets are coming out at a significantly higher velocity than the H-13 loads! Now, if they'll just pattern uniformly and dense enough, we have a winner.

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#3162643 - 02/13/13 03:04 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Wes Parrish]
Andy S.
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Yesir, anytime.
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#3162695 - 02/13/13 03:54 PM Re: Xtended range or Hevi-shot mag blend? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
Thanks, Andy.
Am ordering, and will see what happens.
My ONLY disappointment with these Federal Heavyweights is they're only putting 1 7/8 ounce of shot in a 3 1/2" 12 ga. shell! One would think if they can find a way to get 1 1/2 ounce of shot in a 20 ga. shell, they could get at least a couple ounces in a 12 ga. shell!

But those pellets are coming out at a significantly higher velocity than the H-13 loads! Now, if they'll just pattern uniformly and dense enough, we have a winner.


Probably has to do with the pressures..... and shot weight.

It's more of a safety issue for Federal.... for commercial loads... keep from blowing something up at a 12ga level. A handloader could up it to 2oz pretty easy I'm sure, with the time in load developement/testing, then have it tested at the lab to make sure it is still safe for the user....
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