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#3159751 - 02/11/13 12:25 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: catman529]
Mike Belt
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I don't know the history of this rack in conjunction with where you hunt. I also don't know that of the non-typical rack you found and posted pics of earlier. Just putting those 2 racks side by side and assuming you hunt that area I'd say you need to consider passing on some of the smaller bucks you're killing in that area if you have that kind of genetics in the local deer population. I'd rather lay one down than to find him afterwards. Just a thought and nice find...
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#3159787 - 02/11/13 12:58 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: Mike Belt]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
I don't know the history of this rack in conjunction with where you hunt. I also don't know that of the non-typical rack you found and posted pics of earlier. Just putting those 2 racks side by side and assuming you hunt that area I'd say you need to consider passing on some of the smaller bucks you're killing in that area if you have that kind of genetics in the local deer population. I'd rather lay one down than to find him afterwards. Just a thought and nice find...
I killed 2 bucks off this property, one was 5.5 and the other was 3.5. Passed a couple young bucks too. I won't kill a buck out here unless its 3.5+. The does, I love killing em big or small, but I do like the old ones, they will bust you every time.
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#3159887 - 02/11/13 02:23 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: geezer]
in the dog house!
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Nice find cat!! You sure have the "nose" for it!! Phewwwww \:D
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#3159896 - 02/11/13 02:36 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
If you dont like the B%c system,why use it?Or why bother?
the kid just can't do right by you can he?
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#3159905 - 02/11/13 02:56 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: in the dog house!]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: in the dog house!
Nice find cat!! You sure have the "nose" for it!! Phewwwww \:D
yeah it's a bit ripe! Lol. It's under a storage bin under the deck to "brew" a bit more before I boil it.
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#3160074 - 02/11/13 06:15 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: catman529]
tickweed
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In the B/C or P/Y scoring world, all deer are scored as typicals to begin with. Be it a main frame 6,8,10 or what ever main frame. Then each side is scored,along with inside spread,which gives you a gross score. Then the sides are deducted against each other for symmetry. This gives the final net score as far as typical goes. IF he is considered a non-typ, then you add the abnormal points back to his NET score, and this gives you his final Non-Typ score. Really, there is no gross score for a non typ. Either way, once again, what a deer. Glad you did find him, and at least he didnt die in vain.

Edited by tickweed (02/11/13 06:16 PM)
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#3160402 - 02/11/13 09:21 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: tickweed]
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 Originally Posted By: tickweed
Then the sides are deducted against each other for symmetry. This gives the final net score as far as typical goes. IF he is considered a non-typ, then you add the abnormal points back to his NET score, and this gives you his final Non-Typ score. Really, there is no gross score for a non typ.


And that is why I use what I call a "gross-gross" non-typical B&C score. In essence, no earlier deductions as the true B&C system uses. With typicals, I just use the official gross score. But for non-typicals, I use a gross-gross score (not for recordbook entry but for biological purposes--how many inches of antler did the buck grow). Although the B&C system isn't a perfect measuring system (for biological purposes), it is 1) good enough as long as gross scores are used; and 2) understood by enough hunters that they can create a mental image of a rack when hearing the gross score.
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#3160421 - 02/11/13 09:37 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: BSK]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: tickweed
Then the sides are deducted against each other for symmetry. This gives the final net score as far as typical goes. IF he is considered a non-typ, then you add the abnormal points back to his NET score, and this gives you his final Non-Typ score. Really, there is no gross score for a non typ.


And that is why I use what I call a "gross-gross" non-typical B&C score. In essence, no earlier deductions as the true B&C system uses. With typicals, I just use the official gross score. But for non-typicals, I use a gross-gross score (not for recordbook entry but for biological purposes--how many inches of antler did the buck grow). Although the B&C system isn't a perfect measuring system (for biological purposes), it is 1) good enough as long as gross scores are used; and 2) understood by enough hunters that they can create a mental image of a rack when hearing the gross score.
#2 is exactly why I use the B&C system. And also because it has a handy calculator on the website. \:D

For a Williamson county bottomland 3.5 year old, is this rack average or above average? If you have the data on that.
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#3160456 - 02/11/13 09:57 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: catman529]
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Above average if he's 3.5 and grosses 150+...I'd guess an average Nashville basin buck at 3.5 would be between 110-120 but that's just my observations over the years.

Edited by Hollar Hunter (02/11/13 10:29 PM)
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#3160462 - 02/11/13 10:01 PM Re: 26 inches in deductions.... [Re: Hollar Hunter]
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lol 150 probably isnt even average for WI at 3.5
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