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#3156583 - 02/08/13 06:06 PM Re: Remington 870 [Re: Spurhunter]
REN
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I had this conversation with LSU last year. To be clear I'm not calling him a lier I've just never heard of anyone using a LEAD #4 3" shells that patter with "ethical" patterns at 60yds. Most people shooting 4s I've seen are pushing it to get a round pattern at 45-50 much less 60.

I have also shot and patterned a few lead 4s in a few guns and seen the results. Again not his gun or choke though so anythings possible.
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#3156609 - 02/08/13 06:26 PM Re: Remington 870 [Re: REN]
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It may be that one magic pellet.
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#3156928 - 02/08/13 10:25 PM Re: Remington 870 [Re: chrmayo]
ruger7mag
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 Originally Posted By: chrmayo
It may be that one magic pellet.


It would have to be...

But to answer the man's question, I would go with a jelly head .660 and Hevi 13 #7s.
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#3156945 - 02/08/13 10:40 PM Re: Remington 870 [Re: ruger7mag]
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I have a hard time getting some 2-1/4 oz #4 to pattern to 40 in my 10. Ga.
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#3156991 - 02/08/13 11:56 PM Re: Remington 870 [Re: REN]
Chaneylake
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 Originally Posted By: REN
I had this conversation with LSU last year. To be clear I'm not calling him a lier I've just never heard of anyone using a LEAD #4 3" shells that patter with "ethical" patterns at 60yds. Most people shooting 4s I've seen are pushing it to get a round pattern at 45-50 much less 60.

I have also shot and patterned a few lead 4s in a few guns and seen the results. Again not his gun or choke though so anythings possible.



copper coated #4's, buffering agent vibrated into shot column before crimping, velocity is just over 1200 fps will produce a 65% pattern at 60 yards, I need to look at some of my old reloading data to find the exact powder and numbers of grains, it was a 1 3/8 ounce reload, nickel #3's would pattern even better back when they were legal
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#3157150 - 02/09/13 08:27 AM Re: Remington 870 [Re: Chaneylake]
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Right but that's hand loading not off the shelf.
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#3157345 - 02/09/13 12:59 PM Re: Remington 870 [Re: Chaneylake]
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 Originally Posted By: Chaneylake
 Originally Posted By: REN
I had this conversation with LSU last year. To be clear I'm not calling him a lier I've just never heard of anyone using a LEAD #4 3" shells that patter with "ethical" patterns at 60yds. Most people shooting 4s I've seen are pushing it to get a round pattern at 45-50 much less 60.

I have also shot and patterned a few lead 4s in a few guns and seen the results. Again not his gun or choke though so anythings possible.



copper coated #4's, buffering agent vibrated into shot column before crimping, velocity is just over 1200 fps will produce a 65% pattern at 60 yards, I need to look at some of my old reloading data to find the exact powder and numbers of grains, it was a 1 3/8 ounce reload, nickel #3's would pattern even better back when they were legal


65 % of the load you mentioned would be about 118 or 119 pellets. What size area were those pellets counted in?
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#3157401 - 02/09/13 02:33 PM Re: Remington 870 [Re: ruger7mag]
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30 inch circle at 60 yards, there are some custom reloads out there that will amaze you
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#3157412 - 02/09/13 02:51 PM Re: Remington 870 [Re: Chaneylake]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Chaneylake
. . . . . there are some custom reloads out there that will amaze you

I agree.
And sometimes even more amazing is hitting something with them when your target presents at 15 yards instead of 50! \:D

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#3157420 - 02/09/13 03:01 PM Re: Remington 870 [Re: Wes Parrish]
Chaneylake
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: Chaneylake
. . . . . there are some custom reloads out there that will amaze you

I agree.
And sometimes even more amazing is hitting something with them when your target presents at 15 yards instead of 50! \:D


so true, you can either completely take the head off or miss
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