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#3156274 - 02/08/13 01:23 PM Re: Unmanned helos resupplying Marines [Re: Dodge Man]
BamaProud
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 Originally Posted By: Dodge Man
 Originally Posted By: BamaProud

I wonder how long it will be before the freight/shipping airlines(UPS/Fed Ex) begin using unmanned aircraft. After all, the vast majority of accidents are caused by the pilot. ...and they could save a lot of money in salaries.



Technically the plane is unmanned but is still being flown by a pilot back at the base correct? There not flying there self.


I am not 100% sure but it doesn't sound like it in the article:

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While it supports a pilot, K-MAX can fly by itself day or night and at higher altitudes with a larger payload than any other rotary wing unmanned craft, according to Lockheed Martin.


Cool technology nevertheless.
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#3156281 - 02/08/13 01:27 PM Re: Unmanned helos resupplying Marines [Re: BamaProud]
Dodge Man
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 Originally Posted By: BamaProud
 Originally Posted By: Dodge Man
 Originally Posted By: BamaProud

I wonder how long it will be before the freight/shipping airlines(UPS/Fed Ex) begin using unmanned aircraft. After all, the vast majority of accidents are caused by the pilot. ...and they could save a lot of money in salaries.



Technically the plane is unmanned but is still being flown by a pilot back at the base correct? There not flying there self.


I am not 100% sure but it doesn't sound like it in the article:

 Quote:

While it supports a pilot, K-MAX can fly by itself day or night and at higher altitudes with a larger payload than any other rotary wing unmanned craft, according to Lockheed Martin.


Cool technology nevertheless.


http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/products/kmax.html

I tried looking it up, I really can't tell for sure. It says they can be flow remotely but it dose sound like they can fly them self if the need be. Im not sure how that works and I guess its so new that they really want explain how it works to us.
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#3156285 - 02/08/13 01:30 PM Re: Unmanned helos resupplying Marines [Re: Dodge Man]
BamaProud
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Thanks for the link. Very cool.
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#3156286 - 02/08/13 01:31 PM Re: Unmanned helos resupplying Marines [Re: Dodge Man]
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Where I work at we make ______ for _________ and it is pretty neat. That's about all I can say about that. \:\)
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#3156298 - 02/08/13 01:44 PM Re: Unmanned helos resupplying Marines [Re: BamaProud]
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 Originally Posted By: BamaProud
 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
It would make them MORE liable.


...I don't see how it would make them any MORE or LESS liable.

they would be 100% liable for any crashes period.


Uh no. In any airplane crash they look at every single part of it to find out what caused that crash. Was it the plane, pilot error, software, hardware, bomb, highjack, act of God etc??

So who's responsible and how much are they liable for?? Was it the airline, plane manufacture, software manufacture, etc?

By taking the human pilot out all the others become much more liable.
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#3156304 - 02/08/13 01:53 PM Re: Unmanned helos resupplying Marines [Re: trealtree]
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Dodgeman beat me to the Lockheed site. Yall need to check the video.

As far as crashing and liability...I would want a manned aircraft flying overhead. There have been several instances where a pilot has been able to choose where they were going crash and was able to reduce the amount of damage or injury.
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#3156305 - 02/08/13 01:54 PM Re: Unmanned helos resupplying Marines [Re: Wildcat]
BamaProud
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As I understand it Commercial Pilots are immune/protected from civil liability unless gross negligence can be proven(drunk or asleep or something) A simple mistake will not put them at risk for criminal or civil prosecution. It falls back on the company they work for.

...and in fact most of the time (well over half of the time) the pilot IS responsible for the accident. I think shipping companies might look at this as a way to cut cost(salaries of pilots) and reduce aircraft accidents.
http://planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm
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#3156309 - 02/08/13 01:55 PM Re: Unmanned helos resupplying Marines [Re: 44fanatic]
BamaProud
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 Originally Posted By: 44fanatic
There have been several instances where a pilot has been able to choose where they were going crash and was able to reduce the amount of damage or injury.


That is a good point.

...and those videos are cool as heck!
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#3156317 - 02/08/13 02:08 PM Re: Unmanned helos resupplying Marines [Re: ferg]
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 Originally Posted By: ferg
Sure was a 'stink' when drone 'pilots' got to wear the same 'wings' as real pilots on their uniforms - all kinds of heck being raised about that -

ferg....


Wings are earned after the completion of flight training.....dully earned, regardless of the equipment flown. I bet some ego-driven fighter pilots might object to the whirly-bird drivers wearing "wings" as well. ;\)
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#3156332 - 02/08/13 02:23 PM Re: Unmanned helos resupplying Marines [Re: Wildcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
By taking the human pilot out all the others become much more liable.

I agree.
Also think there is more potential for something bad to go wrong when there is no human physically on board who could manually prevent a crash and/or direct the crash away from any particular location where people are concentrated (i.e. school, hotel, etc.).

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