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#3161400 - 02/12/13 04:55 PM Re: Construction Q/Concrete [Re: OldFart]
TAFKAP
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 Originally Posted By: OldFart
I could use gravel for now and maybe or maybe not use concrete later??? Thanks Ray


I wouldn't expect the gravel to hold long enough. Plus, it'll be no fun getting it out of the hole when you're ready for concrete.
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#3181695 - 03/02/13 09:36 PM Re: Construction Q/Concrete [Re: TAFKAP]
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Decided to and used Quikrete Fast Set today. Temp was supposed to get to 62deg. Was prob about 50 when I finished. Dug hole 36in.
Used exactly as much water as recommended. They recommended one gallon of water per bag after pouring dry.I did hand mix a small amount so I could build up about 3 in over ground level at the base to help in water run off. All the water did soak in after a long time (maybe an hour)but it took many applications pouring a bit at a time. Hope it doesn't get too cold tonight. They rate it as 400 lbs/sq in after a couple hours and 1000 after 24 hrs. I drilled my holes in the 4 X 4 before doing concrete so as to not disturb leveling and/or set(now or later).
Hope it works! Ray

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#3182038 - 03/03/13 10:58 AM Re: Construction Q/Concrete [Re: OldFart]
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Good luck...post pics when you're done!
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#3182058 - 03/03/13 11:24 AM Re: Construction Q/Concrete [Re: OldFart]
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You do need bigger hole that 6". You should have close to that 6" minimum clear on each side for strength, 3ft deep is fine.
Now, if your worreied about freezing,
Sink pole, level pole, then dry pour 2 bags of concrete in hole, if your ground is that wet, the concrete will soak up the water needed, during the pour make sure that you use something like a 1 x 2 to make sure you dont have any air pockets, this is done by pushing the stick into the concrete moving it up and down all the way around, just as you would do if you were pouring mixed concrete.
I have set a many of post this way, walking bridges standing as tall as 10ft with 4 x 4 and 6 x6 post, they are still standing today, with water running over them all during the rainy season.
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#3183125 - 03/04/13 02:05 PM Re: Construction Q/Concrete [Re: TAFKAP]
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I did enlarge hole to approx 10 in and belled out the bottom, a lot. Post seems to be holding well and is still "level" I am still keeping it braced on 4 sides, however. We are expecting winds of 25 mph today. This Fast set stuff is supposed to set so you only have 20 minutes "working" time. It looks pretty well set up on top but of course can't tell about down in the hole. It's been since about 5pm Saturday.
Guess it's a bit late for asking, but has anyone had experience with "Fast Set" Quickrete?
I have some layers of cloth plus a raincoat covering it now
to keep it fm getting wet and maybe provide a bit of insulation. Later, I plan to waterproof the top. I understand that you should not waterprood for quite a few days, prob to allow it to "set" better.
Thanks Ray

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