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#3153282 - 02/05/13 08:15 PM Re: Ron Paul on SEAL Chris Kyle [Re: JThuntsalot]
Bambi Buster
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 Originally Posted By: JThuntsalot
 Originally Posted By: bjohnson
I hold my tongue on the PTSD comments before I say something that gets me banned.


Same here


And I.
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#3153933 - 02/06/13 02:16 PM Re: Ron Paul on SEAL Chris Kyle [Re: AndyW]
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 Originally Posted By: AndyW
 Originally Posted By: JeepKuntry
Say what you want, but PTSD poses a risk. People questioned why Lanza's Mom would allow an autistic boy access to weapons and why she had him at the range. Yet PTSD is supposed to get a special pass? I'm sure there's different stages concerning PTSD, but that needs to be properly diagnosed and treated before letting them shoot/carry. There needs to be a better mental analysis process.


We're talking about men that wrote a blank check to the people of this country for an amount up to and including their lives. To disarm any of them for a PTSD diagnosis is dead wrong. If any member of this society deserves an infallible 2nd amendment right, it is the combat veteran.

I agree that we shouldn't turn our back on veterans. But people associate PTSD as a mental illness. Everytime something happens, you can bet your arse that that will be used against all gunowners.
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#3153955 - 02/06/13 02:43 PM Re: Ron Paul on SEAL Chris Kyle [Re: JeepKuntry]
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 Originally Posted By: JeepKuntry
 Originally Posted By: AndyW
 Originally Posted By: JeepKuntry
Say what you want, but PTSD poses a risk. People questioned why Lanza's Mom would allow an autistic boy access to weapons and why she had him at the range. Yet PTSD is supposed to get a special pass? I'm sure there's different stages concerning PTSD, but that needs to be properly diagnosed and treated before letting them shoot/carry. There needs to be a better mental analysis process.


We're talking about men that wrote a blank check to the people of this country for an amount up to and including their lives. To disarm any of them for a PTSD diagnosis is dead wrong. If any member of this society deserves an infallible 2nd amendment right, it is the combat veteran.

I agree that we shouldn't turn our back on veterans. But people associate PTSD as a mental illness. Everytime something happens, you can bet your arse that that will be used against all gunowners.


Been trying to stay out of this so I did not get banned either;

PTSD is one thing, the more serious and detrimental killer is the depression caused by the effects of PTSD and the drugs used to counter that depression. If you have not lived it, shared your life and fought beside those men and yes women who have it, you may not ever understand really what it is. My dad was a four tour Vietnam vet who lived with PTSD his whole adult life after his first tour in a combat zone. I never understood my dad until later in life and being in a combat zone and all that goes with it myself. I refuse to believe PTSD made this thug take Cris Kyle and Chad Littlefields life, but rather the want of Chris's truck, the thief killed them for.
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#3153958 - 02/06/13 02:45 PM Re: Ron Paul on SEAL Chris Kyle [Re: Unicam]
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oh, and RP should be ashamed for flapping his gums, what an idiot!
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#3153988 - 02/06/13 03:07 PM Re: Ron Paul on SEAL Chris Kyle [Re: Unicam]
JeepKuntry
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I'm grateful for all who fought for our freedoms. I guess my point is people will use PTSD to fuel a fire. The majority of voters will never be convinced that people with PTSD should be able to own/carry, et.
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#3154220 - 02/06/13 06:54 PM Re: Ron Paul on SEAL Chris Kyle [Re: JeepKuntry]
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 Originally Posted By: JeepKuntry
I'm grateful for all who fought for our freedoms. I guess my point is people will use PTSD to fuel a fire. The majority of voters will never be convinced that people with PTSD should be able to own/carry, et.


That sir is a fact! I have two new weapons in my safe as I type this, one each belongs to friends who are in Texas going through PTSD treatment, the first thing the (military) doctors asked them was if they felt suicidal, the second was if they had guns, the third was is there someone who can keep them for you until after treatment.
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