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#3152828 - 02/05/13 01:14 PM How old???
catman529
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I walked up on a bone pile while doing a little shed hunting. This is beyond the range of my aging abilities.... Have a guess because its a guessing game. All 3 molars dished out





Think she died of old age?
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#3152833 - 02/05/13 01:19 PM Re: How old??? [Re: catman529]
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Just might have. I'm not at all comfortable with aging from tooth wear either, but dang they look pretty worn to me.
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#3152835 - 02/05/13 01:19 PM Re: How old??? [Re: catman529]
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You will have to ask Noah. I am pretty sure that on was on the Ark!

I would call it 6+
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#3152850 - 02/05/13 01:27 PM Re: How old??? [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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She was definately an old deer.
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#3152859 - 02/05/13 01:38 PM Re: How old??? [Re: Bayou Buck]
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who knows... ive aged deer up to 7.5 that weren't that worn. Its all a guessing game at this point.

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#3152875 - 02/05/13 01:52 PM Re: How old??? [Re: nate17]
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Ive never seen teeth that worn...thats an old doe
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#3152900 - 02/05/13 02:17 PM Re: How old??? [Re: A.Hall]
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She was the wet nurse to a buck Moses killed!
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#3152923 - 02/05/13 02:44 PM Re: How old??? [Re: 7mm08]
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Im sure exposure has made them look worse but shes and old lady regardless!
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#3152967 - 02/05/13 03:33 PM Re: How old??? [Re: Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: Winchester
Im sure exposure has made them look worse but shes and old lady regardless!
only thing exposure does is lightens the color of the dentine. Her 1st molars are worn completely flat and smooth and are almost gone down to the bone. It makes the jaws from my 5 1/2 year old look like a yearling.
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#3153253 - 02/05/13 07:59 PM Re: How old??? [Re: catman529]
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probably a yearling that loved hickory nuts ;\) \:D
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#3153300 - 02/05/13 08:29 PM Re: How old??? [Re: mike243]
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Old....like 8+ old, my BIL has a set from one that he killed this past year that every tooth is almost worn down to the gum line in a straight line.
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#3153429 - 02/05/13 11:42 PM Re: How old??? [Re: mike243]
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It's an old doe, that's all I can tell you. But great find! I've tried to go shed hunting here where I live, and have NEVER found a one
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#3153439 - 02/06/13 12:14 AM Re: How old??? [Re: Outdoor life]
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 Originally Posted By: Outdoor life
It's an old doe, that's all I can tell you. But great find! I've tried to go shed hunting here where I live, and have NEVER found a one
gotta be where the bucks are I guess... some places are covered in deer sign but no sheds, others have lots of sheds. Keep looking and don't look for a whole antler, just look for a tine or part of a beam hidden by vegetation.
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#3153624 - 02/06/13 09:26 AM Re: How old??? [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: Winchester
Im sure exposure has made them look worse but shes and old lady regardless!
only thing exposure does is lightens the color of the dentine. Her 1st molars are worn completely flat and smooth and are almost gone down to the bone. It makes the jaws from my 5 1/2 year old look like a yearling.

Exactly my point, the bleached white color makes it look even worse than it really is, which is an old doe no doubt.

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#3154455 - 02/06/13 09:21 PM Re: How old??? [Re: Winchester]
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Nice find. That is an old girl.

The Noah and Moses comments are too funny. \:\)
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#3154689 - 02/07/13 07:51 AM Re: How old??? [Re: plinker22]
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#3154756 - 02/07/13 08:49 AM Re: How old??? [Re: Mudbone]
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naaaaa 22
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#3154777 - 02/07/13 09:07 AM Re: How old??? [Re: Hollar Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Mudbone
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 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
naaaaa 22
come on y'all she has to be at least 56. Look at how worn down those teeth are
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#3154780 - 02/07/13 09:09 AM Re: How old??? [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: Mudbone
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 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
naaaaa 22
come on y'all she has to be at least 56. Look at how worn down those teeth are


Those teeth are just worn down because she chewed on her pipe all the time. She was really very young, but she had a rough life making her look much older. I am betting the meth didn't help much either, it really wears on the teeth!
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#3154799 - 02/07/13 09:29 AM Re: How old??? [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: Mudbone
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 Originally Posted By: Hollar Hunter
naaaaa 22
come on y'all she has to be at least 56. Look at how worn down those teeth are


Those teeth are just worn down because she chewed on her pipe all the time. She was really very young, but she had a rough life making her look much older. I am betting the meth didn't help much either, it really wears on the teeth!
dang it sucks when you have a good deer go downhill and become a meth head
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#3155029 - 02/07/13 01:11 PM Re: How old??? [Re: catman529]
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7 in deer years, 98 in human!
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#3155653 - 02/07/13 09:41 PM Re: How old??? [Re: geezer]
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If you can get the jaw to me and let me have a few of the teeth I can send it in to Matsons for cementum annuli testing. I don't think I've ever seen any jaw as worn as that.
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#3155656 - 02/07/13 09:46 PM Re: How old??? [Re: BigGameGuy]
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 Originally Posted By: BigGameGuy
If you can get the jaw to me and let me have a few of the teeth I can send it in to Matsons for cementum annuli testing. I don't think I've ever seen any jaw as worn as that.
can you age the cementum off teeth from the top (skull)? I have all 8 incisors intact and will glue the whole jawbone together including the incisors so I don't want to spare any lower teeth. I would love to see a more accurate result on the deer's age. Can the cementum layers still be seen and read accurately after the deer has rotted away to the bone?
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#3155737 - 02/07/13 11:47 PM Re: How old??? [Re: BigGameGuy]
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 Originally Posted By: BigGameGuy
If you can get the jaw to me and let me have a few of the teeth I can send it in to Matsons for cementum annuli testing. I don't think I've ever seen any jaw as worn as that.

What a nice offer. Do we have the best WROs or what?
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#3155739 - 02/07/13 11:48 PM Re: How old??? [Re: plinker22]
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 Originally Posted By: plinker22
 Originally Posted By: BigGameGuy
If you can get the jaw to me and let me have a few of the teeth I can send it in to Matsons for cementum annuli testing. I don't think I've ever seen any jaw as worn as that.

What a nice offer. Do we have the best WROs or what?
BGG is a great guy as are many of the TWRA people.
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#3157078 - 02/09/13 07:10 AM Re: How old??? [Re: catman529]
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I'll need to check with Matsons to see what teeth they would need. You may have to remind me because I'm pretty busy next week with numerous meetings, Commission, and NWTF.
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#3157154 - 02/09/13 08:31 AM Re: How old??? [Re: BigGameGuy]
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No rush, let me know whenever you find out.
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#3157157 - 02/09/13 08:36 AM Re: How old??? [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
No rush, let me know whenever you find out.


It's almost as though you're doing him a favor.

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#3157185 - 02/09/13 09:32 AM Re: How old??? [Re: pass-thru]
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 Originally Posted By: pass-thru
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No rush, let me know whenever you find out.


It's almost as though you're doing him a favor.
what you mean?
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