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#3151092 - 02/04/13 08:49 AM So God Made A Farmer
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I thought this was the best AD last night. Everyone including myself are always watching for the funniest ad, but i thought this one was the best hands down. Just shows we could use more like it. Ofcorse you got those who are already knocking it, due to linking God,or Dodge or Farming. WOW, they need to get a grip. It was a about farmers, and in good taste by dodge.
Great Paul Harvey commentary, that i and many have not heard if Dodge hadnt brought it to us.
How dare Dodge link farmers to pick up trucks. Whats next they might use Construction or towing,ect.. in truck ad's,oh my
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Farmers and pick up trucks and God go together like a hand and glove.
Tastfully done by Dodge, it wasnt a in your face truck ad, get over it people and enjoy the message.

Amazing the people who had a problem with this ad, but the trashy ad's were fine. If truth was known, most who had the problem with it wasnt due to link to Dodge, but it being about morals and values.
I Shouldnt be amazed, as people are also fine with Obama using childern for gun controll
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2...e_a_farmer.html


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#3151128 - 02/04/13 09:23 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Dale3]
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Best ad of the night! I may have to get a Dodge.
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#3151130 - 02/04/13 09:25 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: 8kler]
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 Originally Posted By: 8kler
Best ad of the night! I may have to get a Dodge.
Yep.
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#3151139 - 02/04/13 09:33 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Beekeeper]
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the only problem with the Paul Harvey thingy is that the younger generation does not know who he is
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#3151148 - 02/04/13 09:41 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Chaneylake]
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...nor do they know, care, or understand the labors of farming. I thought it was a great commercial irregardless of even mentioning the brand name of a truck.
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#3151153 - 02/04/13 09:47 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Mike Belt]
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Dodge and farmers have taken a lot of government welfare. God had nothing to do with that!
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#3151158 - 02/04/13 09:50 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Mike Belt]
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I find it odd, an Italian company using American farmers in their ad...
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#3151236 - 02/04/13 10:43 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: 348Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: 348Winchester
Dodge and farmers have taken a lot of government welfare. God had nothing to do with that!


Knock it ever how you like, but compare to the other ad's, i'll take it 10-1
At least they chose class over trash


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#3151248 - 02/04/13 10:49 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Dale3]
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True.
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#3151328 - 02/04/13 12:08 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: 348Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: 348Winchester
Dodge and farmers have taken a lot of government welfare. God had nothing to do with that!


I was going to post a comment but yours is better.
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#3151337 - 02/04/13 12:23 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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How many of you all that are knocking farming have ever put in a days work on one?

Just wondering.
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#3151353 - 02/04/13 12:31 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: JandSCattleCo]
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 Originally Posted By: JandSCattleCo
How many of you all that are knocking farming have ever put in a days work on one?

Just wondering.
I was wondering the same thing. I also wonder what they would eat if it wasn't for farmers.
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#3151396 - 02/04/13 01:26 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Beekeeper]
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The point is that the commercial is a hoax.
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#3151405 - 02/04/13 01:31 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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The comercial was still cool and CLEAN. I liked it much better than any of the others.
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#3151457 - 02/04/13 02:24 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Dale3]
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It's easy to pick out the posts made by "City Folks" that have never done any farming. ;\)
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#3151502 - 02/04/13 03:04 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: The_Utility_Dude]
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Why should they farm....the grocery store has everything they need:-)

Funny how government "gives money" to farmers and its welfare, but tax breaks, deductions, or credits to both business and / or individuals are not.

I predict there will be a day when certain people will miss those "welfare" taking farmers and the cheap food supply that they grew!


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#3151509 - 02/04/13 03:08 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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 Originally Posted By: Pic IN the Casa
 Originally Posted By: 348Winchester
Dodge and farmers have taken a lot of government welfare. God had nothing to do with that!


I was going to post a comment but yours is better.


How they depicted the farmers was DEAD ON from all i have ever know.Its long hours, its 7 days a week, it starts before the sun comes up and until after its down, and it can be high risk for all your hard work. All the farmers i have know and worked with, could have been those in that ad. I have seen them and known them to do all those things.
They are without a dout some of the hardest working people i have ever known, so if government welfare as you call it is going to go anywhere to anyone, i had MUCH rather see it going to someone thats as hard working as farmers, than someone sitting on thier A*#es doing NOTHING for it.

ALSO for this day and time for a company to even HINT at the word God, much less repeat it over and over and over in such good light, is almost to the point of NON heard of these days.

Maybe you havent notice, but most would shy away from the mention of "God" these days. God has almost become the G_ _ WORD.

It would have been EASY for Dodge to have went with funny or trashy like the rest.
If your going to advertise and they are and they should, i see NOTHING wrong with class act ad. We need more of it these days.
I give Dodge a thumbs up on it, seeing as how these days its concidered taboo to mention religon, much less God.

I'm pretty sure God would give a thumbs up on that ad these days. I dout he have a problem with the farmer or Dodge

PS I Drive GMC, never had a Dodge, dout i ever will, although the new challanger pretty sharp
Nor am i a farmer


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#3151515 - 02/04/13 03:11 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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a bail out company and you want to buy from them.
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#3151525 - 02/04/13 03:21 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Stalkhunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Stalkhunter
a bail out company and you want to buy from them.


Could care less about Dodge, but it was great to see both God and Farmers projected with a positive light!
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#3151529 - 02/04/13 03:37 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Country1]
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Times have changed since 1978 when the speech originated. Politics, government, and farming have all changed.

The commercial was awesome, the message was tainted due to the product being endorsed ---> DODGE.


Kinda reminded me of this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QuzhwkaNC40
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#3151531 - 02/04/13 03:39 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Country1]
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I LOVED the commercial and I know first hand the work and lifestyle as well as the sacrifice farmers make.

But there is a lot of truth in the "Welfare" comment also. Face it guys, there is 'Big Farm" and it's a HUGE Washington lobby.

Who do you REALLY think is the behind the Ethanol mess. The Corn Farmers lobby, that's who.

Farming is America. And it CAN survive without tax payers subsidies and political influence.

There's no sense is arguing over this. Both sides are speaking the truth.
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#3151538 - 02/04/13 03:50 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: de novo]
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 Originally Posted By: de novo
Times have changed since 1978 when the speech originated. Politics, government, and farming have all changed.

The commercial was awesome, the message was tainted due to the product being endorsed ---> DODGE.


I disagree some things have change while many remain the same. The message holds the same meaning if not more today than in 78. also Dodge, i think went out of thier way to not be the spotlight in the ad. Like i said, you wont find many if any company this day and time that would risk even mentioning "God" and for sure not like was done in this ad. My hats off to Dodge for doing so.
I prefer to give credit where credit is due, when its wrong, but also when its right


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#3151547 - 02/04/13 03:59 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Crappie Luck]
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[quote=Crappie Luck]I LOVED the commercial and I know first hand the work and lifestyle as well as the sacrifice farmers make.

Your from Smith county, what would you know?
You got to be from Jackson County to know anything.
LOL \:D

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#3151571 - 02/04/13 04:18 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Dale3]
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LMAO!!!!

I see farmers when I'm driving home.

DUH!!!! \:D
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#3151578 - 02/04/13 04:26 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Crappie Luck]
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The farm subsidy was the foundation for the "Conservative, Southern Democrat".

Democrats like Al Gore Sr. saw a nitch in bringing home "Pork" for the "Working man/farmer".

They played the same game as city Democrats but instead of programs for minorities and dead beats, they guaranteed income for farmers through subsidies govt. price fixing.

It's all govt. tax and spend and anti-free market principles applied to farming instead of welfare. Just like the city Dems, they secured a voting block and power as a result.

It's all the same politics only your wear flannel or a bolo in place of a tie ;\)

That's not to say farming is a tough and honest living. It's the poster of the American dream. But you can't ignore the HUGE roll politics and democrats, specifically have played in the history of the American farm.

Cargill, Monsanto and Dupont are not in it for the love of country ;\)
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#3151670 - 02/04/13 05:20 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Crappie Luck]
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If somebody blinked at the wrong time, they'd not even known it was a Dodge truck commercial. I thought it was done with taste and was pleasantly surprised to see something on current TV that supported values and decency.
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#3151778 - 02/04/13 06:36 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck

Cargill, Monsanto and Dupont are not in it for the love of country ;\)


Neither are NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, Remington, Savage, Bushmaster, or any other corporation or business in the USA.

Even TNDEER charges for classifieds to help with the cost of running a website:-)
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#3151854 - 02/04/13 07:13 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Country1]
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None of the one's you listed get Taxpayer dollars (welfare) for research and development either ;\)
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#3151915 - 02/04/13 07:31 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Crappie Luck]
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I didn't see any FORD commercials promoting GOD or hard working farmers.


One thing is for dam sure. This farmer hasn't taken any welfare. And all of my Dodges are pre bailout. \:D
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#3151928 - 02/04/13 07:38 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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If you guys are going to play the bail out card, the way I see it is you have two choices. Either buy a Ford or a good horse. Me personally, I would hands down rather have a good horse.
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#3151935 - 02/04/13 07:42 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
None of the one's you listed get Taxpayer dollars (welfare) for research and development either ;\)


Sure they do. R&D tax credits have been used by corporations for years. Look it up.
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#3151940 - 02/04/13 07:47 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Country1]
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You talking about tax deductions?
I'm talking about Subsidies.

They are not even close to the same thing. Every business writes off expenses, not every business receives tax dollars.
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#3151952 - 02/04/13 07:53 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Crappie Luck]
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Definition of 'Subsidy'
A benefit given by the government to groups or individuals usually in the form of a cash payment or tax reduction. The subsidy is usually given to remove some type of burden and is often considered to be in the interest of the public.


Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/subsidy.asp#ixzz2JzBWofsr

They are the one and the same:-) Just depends on which side of the fence you are on. Remember when Bush sent out the checks to every taxpayer...was that not a subsidy? Did you send yours back? :-)
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#3151979 - 02/04/13 08:02 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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#3152058 - 02/04/13 08:53 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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Farm subsidies are wrong. Every sector of our nation that is "subsidized" by the government is affected and eventually corrupted.


There is a difference between a subsidy, a refund, a tax credit, and a tax deduction. So, no, if Bush saw fit to send some of my money back that year I didn't send it back or feel guilty.

A refund check in no way compares to an ethanol subsidy, a payment to take farmland out of production, crop insurance subsidies, or any of the other pay outs that farmers now expect.


http://www.heritage.org/research/reports...and-farmers-too
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#3152093 - 02/04/13 09:05 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: de novo]
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Just checking in as I pass through.......
Sorta like me (tax dollars) paying for milk that is poured out,dairy cattle slaughtered,and grain fields plowed under,while we have thousands of children on the verge of starvation.
That's how I see subsidies.......
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#3152154 - 02/04/13 09:40 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Country1]
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Definition of 'Subsidy'
A benefit given by the government to groups or individuals usually in the form of a cash payment or tax reduction. The subsidy is usually given to remove some type of burden and is often considered to be in the interest of the public.


Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/subsidy.asp#ixzz2JzBWofsr

They are the one and the same:-) Just depends on which side of the fence you are on. Remember when Bush sent out the checks to every taxpayer...was that not a subsidy? Did you send yours back? :-)


Gee. Thanks for the link. I had no idea that keeping your own money was the same thing as getting some of someone else's.

Learn something every day \:\)
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#3152171 - 02/04/13 09:52 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Crappie Luck]
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Gee. Thanks for the link. I had no idea that keeping your own money was the same thing as getting some of someone else's.

Learn something every day \:\)
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Do you think that farmers don't pay taxes? Or are you just stirring the pot?
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#3152202 - 02/04/13 10:12 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Country1]
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Of course they pay taxes.

How is taking advantage of a tax.deduction the same thing as receiving a subsidy?

One is.keeping your own money. The other is getting some one elses.
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#3152203 - 02/04/13 10:12 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: de novo]
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 Originally Posted By: de novo


There is a difference between a subsidy, a refund, a tax credit, and a tax deduction. So, no, if Bush saw fit to send some of my money back that year I didn't send it back or feel guilty.

A refund check in no way compares to an ethanol subsidy, a payment to take farmland out of production, crop insurance subsidies, or any of the other pay outs that farmers now expect.


http://www.heritage.org/research/reports...and-farmers-too


Yet, EVERYONE took it when the government offered If the IRS gave a tax deduction, subsidy, tax credit, or gift for being a TNDEER member, I seriously doubt anyone on here would refuse it.

I see welfare as money given to people who don't work and don't pay taxes. Farmers do work and pay lots of taxes.
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#3152206 - 02/04/13 10:14 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Country1]
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Welfare is taking from one and giving.to another. Don't matter what they do or not do for a.living
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#3152210 - 02/04/13 10:16 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
Of course they pay taxes.

How is taking advantage of a tax.deduction the same thing as receiving a subsidy?

One is.keeping your own money. The other is getting some one elses.


You win! I'm going to bed Just remember to say a little prayer for that welfare taking farmer / rancher that provides you breakfast tomorrow morning


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#3152212 - 02/04/13 10:18 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Country1]
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Nite, man.

God bless
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#3152213 - 02/04/13 10:19 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Country1]
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 Originally Posted By: Country1
 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
Of course they pay taxes.

How is taking advantage of a tax.deduction the same thing as receiving a subsidy?

One is.keeping your own money. The other is getting some one elses.


You win! I'm going to bed Just remember to say a little prayer for that welfare taking farmer / rancher that provides you breakfast tomorrow morning


\:D

Raise my breakfast \:\)
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#3152223 - 02/04/13 10:29 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Crappie Luck]
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Am I missing something here? Are farmers now evil, welfare dependant, liberals?
I may be off base but that is what I'm gathering.
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#3152248 - 02/04/13 10:42 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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That's not my point at all.

But if you google farm subsidy new york city you can see for yourself how subsidies have been abused.

I dont think theres a need for subsidies in farming. Farmers are smart enough to know what to grow and what not to grow and play a marketsubsidies are just a way for govt to "harvest" votes and keep farmers "in line"
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#3152265 - 02/04/13 10:54 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Crappie Luck]
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I understand what your getting at Crappie.

My kind of farming and their kind of farming is very different. They are farming to get paid, I'm farming to get by. As long as the government is footing the bill all is good, but around here there ain't no government check coming to the farmers I know. Heck there ain't much of a check of any kind coming.
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#3152315 - 02/05/13 01:16 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Beekeeper]
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Best ad of the night! I may have to get a Dodge.
Yep.


Best ad of the night yes! I have always liked DODGE cars and trucks.
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#3152316 - 02/05/13 01:22 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Locksley]
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#3152381 - 02/05/13 06:25 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Locksley]
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I think you all missed the point. Today NO ONE will run a ad using God in such a way. Not cool to do, not politically correct, not how to drum up biz these days. You might insault the non beleavers or rag heads or whoever...
Dodge went against the norm these days,Dodge took a risk we should ALL be thanking them for, and put out a DANG good ad.
Farmers are hard workers, good people, most who have VERY VERY GOOD family values. You know kind of how us so called conservatives claim to be
Say what you want, but this country would be WWWAAAYYYY better off with more people with the work ethic,morals and family values of the farmers.
I was at a Super Bowl Party, and when that ad came on, EVEYONE got quiet, EVERYONE listen to the message, EVERYONE was i think SHOCKED to see a ad that not only mentioned God, but was about God, and feeling good about it. You just dont EVER see that these days.
I'm glad no one there was like on here, bad evil dodge bail outers, bad evil farmers subsidies.
Its not they were clueless of this, its just they got like i, hey that was cool ad.
Here on TNDEER, your damned if you do, damned if you dont, by we great prefect conservatives, no pleasing we of moral high ground.

I wish i had not even posted it. It proves why this country is so messed up these days.

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#3152402 - 02/05/13 06:42 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Dale3]
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Thanks for posting. First time i had seen it. Good commercial.
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#3152480 - 02/05/13 08:25 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Country1]
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I've worked on farms in Tennessee and Montana. My mother owns a farm in Oklahoma that's been in our family over 100 years. I know that farming is damned hard work and HEAVILY subsidized by the government. Dodge played upon many things with their commercial and it obviously worked on many of you. That's what a good pitch does!


God had nothing to do with Dodge or farmers utilizing government programs.

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#3152483 - 02/05/13 08:26 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Dale3]
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We get it. It was a GREAT ad. But this is a conversation not a bumper sticker. It flows and changes.

I loved the ad, but posting that alone doesn't make a very interesting conversation.
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#3152568 - 02/05/13 09:17 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Crappie Luck]
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Dodge played off a weakness most have, ignorance of American agriculture. They romanicized the cowboy in a way that will lead most to think that is the way it is. 90% of farms are owned by small farmers, yet out of the 2 million farns only 46,000 produce enough to truly matter (make a honest living). Cooperate farms and government regulation hurt us (farmers). I do not know of more than a handful of farmers who could afford a new truck, thats the problem and thats the problem I had with the commercial.

Ram is also giving 1 million to the national FFA, chump change considering they got 10.5 billion from us in bailouts.
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#3152796 - 02/05/13 12:40 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: AT Hiker]
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Wonder how much they can pay me NOT to grow peas this year? \:D
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#3152804 - 02/05/13 12:45 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: TX300mag]
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 Originally Posted By: TX300mag
Wonder how much they can pay me NOT to grow peas this year? \:D



If you're a Hispanic woman or a black farmer they may pay you a good sum. \:\)

http://westernfarmpress.com/government/f...s-feb-12-fresno

http://www.mysettlementclaims.com/blog/?p=785&cpage=8#comment-3463
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#3152908 - 02/05/13 02:26 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Dale3]
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The way I took the commercial they were depicting actual small potatoes, pardon the pun, farmers. The description of a farmer in the AD doesn't even begin to depict "corporate farmers" that might be getting the subsidies spoken of.

I thought they were paying tribute to the "small guys" who work a farm to TRY and scratch out a living. Never once did I think "Monsanto" et.al. while the commercial was airing. Maybe I took it the wrong way.
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#3152993 - 02/05/13 04:01 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: The_Utility_Dude]
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The way I took the commercial they were depicting actual small potatoes, pardon the pun, farmers. The description of a farmer in the AD doesn't even begin to depict "corporate farmers" that might be getting the subsidies spoken of.

I thought they were paying tribute to the "small guys" who work a farm to TRY and scratch out a living. Never once did I think "Monsanto" et.al. while the commercial was airing. Maybe I took it the wrong way.
Good point and that's the way I saw it. The pics could have fit the time frame of the speech better than it would in today's farmers. You'd think with all that free government money we'd have a lot more farmers and not so many who went bankrupt? Good farm land is going for $10,000 an acre here in Iowa, a new combine head is more than the whole machine was 5 years ago, but we complain because corn is $7.50 per bushel and it cost you more for meat and would like to see the prices lower, but we forget who has to grow all this stuff. Sure the dairy farmers got milk subsidies because as the milk in the stores kept going up and cost to feed the cows went up, milk stayed at pennies per gallon and many were forced to sell their cows to slaughter and shut down their milking operations because they couldn't pay the bank. Pretty hard to make good old milk from anything other than cows. Pretty gusty add for these days and surprised some group hasn't filed some type of law suit because it offended them.


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#3153011 - 02/05/13 04:20 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: iowavf]
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Why do so many have to make everything political. It was a great commercial and I loved it.
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#3153051 - 02/05/13 05:05 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: de novo]
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 Originally Posted By: de novo
 Originally Posted By: TX300mag
Wonder how much they can pay me NOT to grow peas this year? \:D



If you're a Hispanic woman or a black farmer they may pay you a good sum. \:\)

http://westernfarmpress.com/government/f...s-feb-12-fresno

http://www.mysettlementclaims.com/blog/?p=785&cpage=8#comment-3463


What if you are a White Hispanic HeShe Trans-sexual? Do you get more money? \:D \:D
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#3153078 - 02/05/13 05:30 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Hunter 257W]
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 Originally Posted By: Hunter 257W
If somebody blinked at the wrong time, they'd not even known it was a Dodge truck commercial. I thought it was done with taste and was pleasantly surprised to see something on current TV that supported values and decency.



I agree with this, hit the nail on the head, I am not a farmer but my grandfather was, and as well owned a small country store to sell his veggies and fruit in, although most of what he did was give it away to many who came by and he knew didnt have the money to pay for much. Yes, I also owned a dodge ram and when able will more than likely buy another. Farmers and Truckers go hand in hand, without one you wont need the other in many cases. I disagree with the high cost of the food, so if you dont like what the farmer delivers no matte the price,,,,,,,,,you need to get out and plant the garden, raise your cattle, sheep,,,,etc because without them, you wouldnt have what you have now,,,,,,
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#3153090 - 02/05/13 05:37 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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 Originally Posted By: FLTENNHUNTER1
 Originally Posted By: de novo
 Originally Posted By: TX300mag
Wonder how much they can pay me NOT to grow peas this year? \:D



If you're a Hispanic woman or a black farmer they may pay you a good sum. \:\)

http://westernfarmpress.com/government/f...s-feb-12-fresno

http://www.mysettlementclaims.com/blog/?p=785&cpage=8#comment-3463


What if you are a White Hispanic HeShe Trans-sexual? Do you get more money? \:D \:D


No you dont have to work at all to get more money or if you do work, the family farm or company MUST undeseveringly promote you over others more qualified for the job


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#3153277 - 02/05/13 08:12 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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 Originally Posted By: FLTENNHUNTER1
 Originally Posted By: de novo
 Originally Posted By: TX300mag
Wonder how much they can pay me NOT to grow peas this year? \:D



If you're a Hispanic woman or a black farmer they may pay you a good sum. \:\)

http://westernfarmpress.com/government/f...s-feb-12-fresno

http://www.mysettlementclaims.com/blog/?p=785&cpage=8#comment-3463


What if you are a White Hispanic HeShe Trans-sexual? Do you get more money? \:D \:D


I sure hope so! I'll call tomorrow and find out. \:D
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#3153309 - 02/05/13 08:34 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Dale3]
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 Originally Posted By: Dale3
 Originally Posted By: Pic IN the Casa
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Dodge and farmers have taken a lot of government welfare. God had nothing to do with that!


I was going to post a comment but yours is better.


They are without a dout some of the hardest working people i have ever known, so if government welfare as you call it is going to go anywhere to anyone, i had MUCH rather see it going to someone thats as hard working as farmers, than someone sitting on thier A*#es doing NOTHING for it.

ALSO for this day and time for a company to even HINT at the word God, much less repeat it over and over and over in such good light, is almost to the point of NON heard of these days.


I cut some out but you said it well. I loved the commercial. it was my favorite by far. I have never farmed, but the people in the add reminded me of the ones I know/knew.

The statement about welfare is spot on.


Edited by Bone Collector (02/05/13 08:36 PM)
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#3153434 - 02/05/13 11:46 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: de novo]
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So easily people forget Dodge took the bail out.
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#3153440 - 02/06/13 12:20 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Dale3]
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 Originally Posted By: Dale3
 Originally Posted By: Pic IN the Casa
 Originally Posted By: 348Winchester
Dodge and farmers have taken a lot of government welfare. God had nothing to do with that!


I was going to post a comment but yours is better.


How they depicted the farmers was DEAD ON from all i have ever know.Its long hours, its 7 days a week, it starts before the sun comes up and until after its down, and it can be high risk for all your hard work. All the farmers i have know and worked with, could have been those in that ad. I have seen them and known them to do all those things.
They are without a dout some of the hardest working people i have ever known, so if government welfare as you call it is going to go anywhere to anyone, i had MUCH rather see it going to someone thats as hard working as farmers, than someone sitting on thier A*#es doing NOTHING for it.

ALSO for this day and time for a company to even HINT at the word God, much less repeat it over and over and over in such good light, is almost to the point of NON heard of these days.

Maybe you havent notice, but most would shy away from the mention of "God" these days. God has almost become the G_ _ WORD.

It would have been EASY for Dodge to have went with funny or trashy like the rest.
If your going to advertise and they are and they should, i see NOTHING wrong with class act ad. We need more of it these days.
I give Dodge a thumbs up on it, seeing as how these days its concidered taboo to mention religon, much less God.

I'm pretty sure God would give a thumbs up on that ad these days. I dout he have a problem with the farmer or Dodge

PS I Drive GMC, never had a Dodge, dout i ever will, although the new challanger pretty sharp
Nor am i a farmer
I grew up in the suburbs and have not worked a day on a farm but I respect those who do and I agree with the above post... and the ad was also my favorite out of all of them. I was surprised to hear God mentioned in a superbowl ad. Kudos to dodge for that ad.
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#3153586 - 02/06/13 08:43 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: brmaster]
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I enjoyed the content of the commercial myself, and took it at what it was, when it was originally spoken by Paul Harvey. I still won't buy a Dodge/Chrysler product anyway. \:\)
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#3153612 - 02/06/13 09:15 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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I liked the comerical, I'm not a farmer, I do live in farm country. 1/3 of my best friends are farmers. I would trade my easy desk job of 52 weeks a year for a farming job any day of the week.
I'm not knocking any of them and yes we do need farmers.
BUT I do get tired of always hearing them moan about seed prices, Fuel prices, ferterlize, we need rain, I wish it would stop raining, I never see a happy for what they got farmer.
they all drive new trucks and live in huge houses! They play golf year around! they go on trips!Duck and deer hunt every day of the season, Today's farmers have more time off than any working man in the work force I know.
Granted they work long hours for planting season and the Harvest, but other then that you can find most farmers I know on the Golf course 5 days a week. and they can afford the green fees!
The farmers in the commerical died out years ago! Very few if any work that hard year around.

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#3153620 - 02/06/13 09:25 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: recurve60#]
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 Originally Posted By: recurve60#
So easily people forget Dodge took the bail out.




By a Ford then.
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#3153629 - 02/06/13 09:29 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Slaughter-06]
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[quote=Slaughter-06]
I liked the comerical, I'm not a farmer, I do live in farm country. 1/3 of my best friends are farmers. I would trade my easy desk job of 52 weeks a year for a farming job any day of the week.
I'm not knocking any of them and yes we do need farmers.
BUT I do get tired of always hearing them moan about seed prices, Fuelii prices, ferterlize, we need rain, I wish it would stop raining, I never see a happy for what they got farmer.
they all drive new trucks and live in huge houses! They play golf year around! they go on trips!Duck and deer hunt every day of the season, Today's farmers have more time off than any working man in the work force I know.
Granted they work long hours for planting season and the Harvest, but other then that you can find most farmers I know on the Golf course 5 days a week. and they can afford the green fees!
The farmers in the commerical died out years ago! Very few if any work that hard year around. [/quote

Not being a farmer, I guess you wouldn't understand why the complain anbout stuff like that. If all of the farmers started worrying about themselves and their families only, and stop selling their crops and livestock comercially, most people in the country would starve.




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#3153647 - 02/06/13 09:49 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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[quote=Slaughter-06]
I liked the comerical, I'm not a farmer, I do live in farm country. 1/3 of my best friends are farmers. I would trade my easy desk job of 52 weeks a year for a farming job any day of the week.
I'm not knocking any of them and yes we do need farmers.
BUT I do get tired of always hearing them moan about seed prices, Fuelii prices, ferterlize, we need rain, I wish it would stop raining, I never see a happy for what they got farmer.
they all drive new trucks and live in huge houses! They play golf year around! they go on trips!Duck and deer hunt every day of the season, Today's farmers have more time off than any working man in the work force I know.
Granted they work long hours for planting season and the Harvest, but other then that you can find most farmers I know on the Golf course 5 days a week. and they can afford the green fees!
The farmers in the commerical died out years ago! Very few if any work that hard year around. [/quote

Not being a farmer, I guess you wouldn't understand why the complain anbout stuff like that. If all of the farmers started worrying about themselves and their families only, and stop selling their crops and livestock comercially, most people in the country would starve.

When they pull up to the Golf couse in their new 2500 truck and get their new set of clubs out and go to whining about Fuel prices it falls on deaf ears.

Not to worry there will always be farmers there not going anywhere. to many Golf courses they have not played yet to quit just yet. \:\)



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#3153668 - 02/06/13 10:08 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Slaughter-06]
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Yea, golfing farmers. I see that A LOT.
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#3153670 - 02/06/13 10:10 AM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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As far as the new trucks and fuel prices go. A farmer has more need for a new diesel truck than most. More so than most of the city slickers I see running around in them and complaining about fuel prices.
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#3153838 - 02/06/13 12:54 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Slaughter-06]
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 Originally Posted By: Slaughter-06


they all drive new trucks and live in huge houses! They play golf year around! they go on trips!Duck and deer hunt every day of the season, Today's farmers have more time off than any working man in the work force I know.
Granted they work long hours for planting season and the Harvest, but other then that you can find most farmers I know on the Golf course 5 days a week. and they can afford the green fees!
The farmers in the commerical died out years ago! Very few if any work that hard year around.


That sums up my feeelings as well. Many of the farmers Paul Harvey was speaking of back in 1978 went bust in the 1980's. The small farmer I worked for could have been in the Dodge commercial. he worked right beside his help.

Times changed and many current farmers know how to work the system and let others work for them. Lots more shiny new toys and time to play than when I grew up working on the farm.
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#3153863 - 02/06/13 01:19 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: de novo]
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With millions in "welfare" from the government, nothing to do but golf, hunt, and take trips, I'm amazed that more of you all don't quit your current jobs and take up farming. There must be some reason??????
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#3153937 - 02/06/13 02:22 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Country1]
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If I had a $Million Dollars, I'd farm until it was all gone \:D
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#3153977 - 02/06/13 03:02 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: de novo]
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 Originally Posted By: Slaughter-06


they all drive new trucks and live in huge houses! They play golf year around! they go on trips!Duck and deer hunt every day of the season, Today's farmers have more time off than any working man in the work force I know.
Granted they work long hours for planting season and the Harvest, but other then that you can find most farmers I know on the Golf course 5 days a week. and they can afford the green fees!
The farmers in the commerical died out years ago! Very few if any work that hard year around.


That sums up my feeelings as well. Many of the farmers Paul Harvey was speaking of back in 1978 went bust in the 1980's. The small farmer I worked for could have been in the Dodge commercial. he worked right beside his help.

Times changed and many current farmers know how to work the system and let others work for them. Lots more shiny new toys and time to play than when I grew up working on the farm.


I guess all the farmers i know and knew grew up on the wrong side of the holler.
If you handed them a golf club, They have found some way to use it on the farm,but it wouldnt be for Golfing.They might have used it to knock the cow sheet off thier boots.


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#3153998 - 02/06/13 03:15 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Country1]
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With millions in "welfare" from the government, nothing to do but golf, hunt, and take trips, I'm amazed that more of you all don't quit your current jobs and take up farming. There must be some reason??????


Agree, I should start a info commercial for 3 payments of 39.95, I'm going to show you how to live like a rock star and doing nothing to earn it.
Would you like to live in this house? Drive this new truck, golf,trophy hunt, fish, travel the world? Have fine women throwing themselves at your feet? A Party in the barn every night?
Then stick around and watch for the next 30 minute and i'll show you how to be a farmer and have everything you want for doing nothing

The ad was about the samll hard working, just making it farmers. It was not about these mega farmers you all keep trying to inject into this. It was about the man who worked double hard on Sat. so he could finsih up in time to take his grandaughter and her horse to the local horse show that night, not out golfing!


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#3154007 - 02/06/13 03:30 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Dale3]
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I always hear the term "Corporate farmer" but have never been able to track one of those rascals down. \:\) I know really big time farmers but they are just guys who stay on their tractors more than little farmers. Are they "corporate Farmers"? There's no board of directors sitting in an office directing lackies to do their work while they(the rich directors) drive around in limosines enjoying themselves. One fella that comes to mind is farming about 4,000 acres - I'd think that qualifies him to be a "Big" farmer, wouldn't it? It's mostly him and his Father with some temporary help hired during planting and harvest time. They may very well have the legal status of a corporaion for tax purposes but it's still mostly 2 men working hard on a whole lot of land.

I think a lot of city people have a very distorted idea of the modern farm. Yeah, it's big but still the farmer is out there doing the work. And I have never heard a farmer even mention golf. Hunting - "Yes" but even then, most of them I know wont even hunt because they consider it a waste of time.

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#3154013 - 02/06/13 03:39 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Hunter 257W]
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The negative responses to this ad remind me of how some conservaties rejected Romney wholeheartedly in the recnt election because he didn't align with their ideals in certain areas. I heard so many conservatives complain that "Romney is no different than Obama". Sure no politician is going to mirror your beliefs perfectly but to malign one who is reasonably close when the other is so far out there as Obama mystifies me.

The whole point of the original post on this commercial is that it praised the good value of hard work and even went so far as to mention God several times in a positive light. This is getting too rare in recent times and we should praise the little bit of good we see instead of condemning them for every thing we can pick at. Sure Dodge and GM took a government bailout - I for one will still support them over a foreign company - even if the foreign product is made here. You are still strengthening a foreign company.

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#3154028 - 02/06/13 03:57 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: Slaughter-06]
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 Originally Posted By: Slaughter-06

I liked the comerical, I'm not a farmer, I do live in farm country. 1/3 of my best friends are farmers. I would trade my easy desk job of 52 weeks a year for a farming job any day of the week.
I'm not knocking any of them and yes we do need farmers.
BUT I do get tired of always hearing them moan about seed prices, Fuel prices, ferterlize, we need rain, I wish it would stop raining, I never see a happy for what they got farmer.
they all drive new trucks and live in huge houses! They play golf year around! they go on trips!Duck and deer hunt every day of the season, Today's farmers have more time off than any working man in the work force I know.
Granted they work long hours for planting season and the Harvest, but other then that you can find most farmers I know on the Golf course 5 days a week. and they can afford the green fees!
The farmers in the commerical died out years ago! Very few if any work that hard year around.
Wonder if I could just be a part time farmer and golf 3 days a week. You need to come visit some of the farmers I know. Yes they live in nice houses, drive new trucks, but they're working 7 days a week and no they don't golf, fish, or hunt all the time either or have 9 to 5 hours and home every night with the family. I grew up on one of those small farms so I have a low tolerance level for folks who never had to be on that side of the fence and only saw farmers as they drove by the field with their families going for a nice drive in the country.

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#3154090 - 02/06/13 05:11 PM Re: So God Made A Farmer [Re: iowavf]
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I guess I live in a different place than some. Most of the farmer's I know are God fearing, hard working, modest folks like most of the rest of us. Many are in their 60's and 70's and are still hitting it daylight to dark on most days. I've seen those huge row crop farms with the latest state of the art equipment, but I don't know any of them. I've talked to some who's biggest worry is they've worked they're whole life to have something to leave to the younger generations in they're family, but say the younger generation has no interest in carrying on the family farm. Then what happens, the younger ones who inherit it decide theres more and easier profit in farming asphalt and subdivisions. Yeah, God bless them, these are the farmers I thought about when I saw that commercial.
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