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#3150141 - 02/03/13 02:45 PM 1 Tip you could offer
timberjack86
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What would it be? I see alot of new guys to the sport asking for tips. I for certain am not an expert but I have killed a few birds and could always use more tips.What is your tip for us?
My tip would be always use the terrain in your favor when you set up on a bird. Make sure as best you can that he cannot see your calling location uless he is within gun range. A gobbler is useally reluctant to approach a hen that he cant see that he thinks he should.
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#3150153 - 02/03/13 03:05 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: timberjack86]
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Where ever you decide to set up, stay 30 minutes more than your mind tells you to. I've been busted a couple of times by telling myself this spot ain't working.
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#3150158 - 02/03/13 03:11 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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Dont be afraid to move a little closer
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#3150161 - 02/03/13 03:12 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Rockhound]
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don't over call
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#3150200 - 02/03/13 03:54 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Rockhound]
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
Dont be afraid to move a little closer


This
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#3150207 - 02/03/13 03:58 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: muddyboots]
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Patience.
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#3150233 - 02/03/13 04:27 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: RUGER]
8 POINTS OR BETTER
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Get as close as you can with out spooking them, before you call.
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#3150264 - 02/03/13 04:45 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
Mike Belt
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There are all kinds of tips for different circumstances but overall I think Ruger nailed it. Don't be afraid to move but patience has probably killed more birds than not. A tip someone might not have considered relates to very windy days. I've hunted, called in, and killed birds under extremely windy circumstances before. So windy in fact, that I could plainly see the bird come out of the timber and into a field downwind of me, watch as he strutted and gobbled his head off, but couldn't hear a thing. The tip would be that when calling under those circumstances do so from upwind of where you anticipate the birds being.
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#3150273 - 02/03/13 04:50 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Mike Belt]
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leave your decoys at home, I have prob lost more due to decoys when won them over the years....JMO though.

like an idiot i still think i have a foam one in my vest during parts of the season.
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#3150277 - 02/03/13 04:51 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Mike Belt]
TeamMainStreet
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Patience is the key.
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#3150343 - 02/03/13 05:42 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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use the decoys for a backpad and get as close as you can i never start calling until im within 100-75 yards at most, if you have to take off your boots to be quiet so be it{hot tip socks are pretty dang quiet and you break fewer sticks} get out of the fields and kill em in the woods that is where they live!
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#3150398 - 02/03/13 06:28 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
nate17
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 Originally Posted By: Pic IN the Casa
Where ever you decide to set up, stay 30 minutes more than your mind tells you to. I've been busted a couple of times by telling myself this spot ain't working.


I got to agree with this. Have been busted several times in my younger days for thinking something was done and moving too early. Ill even take a little power nap sometimes.

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#3150400 - 02/03/13 06:31 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: nate17]
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go fishing ;\)
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#3150454 - 02/03/13 07:19 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: stik]
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Be patient and leave the decoys at home.
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#3150465 - 02/03/13 07:26 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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#3150543 - 02/03/13 07:58 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: catman529]
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For beginners: don't call more than one yelp series a half-hour and sit in a blind in a comfortable chair.

For erebody else: get closer, sit longer, know your terrain.

Is that more than one tip?
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#3150779 - 02/03/13 09:57 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: timberjack86]
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Don't be afraid to get close to a bird before setting up. Use the terrain and foliage to set up as close as possible to a gobbling bird. Also do not call to said bird until you are close and set up in the best possible location to kill the bird.
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#3150832 - 02/03/13 10:18 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
Don't be afraid to get close to a bird before setting up. Use the terrain and foliage to set up as close as possible to a gobbling bird. Also do not call to said bird until you are close and set up in the best possible location to kill the bird.
also don't call to a bird that is obviously coming in, especially on public land... I made that mistake last year on sunday evening of opening weekend. He was strutting and making his way toward me, I clucked and purred, he got suspicious and left. Burned....
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#3150918 - 02/04/13 01:13 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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Pay attention to the weather. Rain particularly. Learn where they go under each weather condition. If you are not having any luck but looks like rain get close to the field. Light rain (not a monsoon)
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#3151162 - 02/04/13 09:52 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: TNRino]
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#3151179 - 02/04/13 10:06 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: JAY B]
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If a bird is still in the tree, let him know your there(call very lightly) and shut up. Don't call again until he is on the ground.
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#3151258 - 02/04/13 10:52 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
Phil1979
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 Originally Posted By: Pic IN the Casa
Where ever you decide to set up, stay 30 minutes more than your mind tells you to. I've been busted a couple of times by telling myself this spot ain't working.


Definitely.

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#3151274 - 02/04/13 11:12 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Phil1979]
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Don't get so caught up in the killing...enjoy the hunt for what it is.
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#3151336 - 02/04/13 12:20 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: CBU93]
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 Originally Posted By: CBU93
Don't get so caught up in the killing...enjoy the hunt for what it is.


Amen. My first two or three years of turkey hunting was all about numbers and spurs. They were the worst years I've ever had- always worrying about 'getting one' rather than enjoying the hunt.

Now, not that I am some expert, I can (and have) let birds walk that I was fortunate enough to call into range. I'm a 'birder'. Spring is prime migration for warblers and there have been many days that I left a farm without a turkey but having seen a couple of neat birds simply because I was out there.

I would highly suggest an Eastern Bird field guide in everyones pack.
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#3151367 - 02/04/13 12:47 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
woodsman87
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Don't cackle, cutt, or call too much while they are still in the tree.
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#3151375 - 02/04/13 01:00 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: RUGER]
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 Originally Posted By: RUGER
Patience.

What he said. I tell people all the time that patience kills turkeys.
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#3151401 - 02/04/13 01:28 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Gravey]
bvoss
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Buy quality calls. It's kinda like buying shoes. The cheap ones will get it done, but the higher quality ones will last longer and are much more enjoyable to use.
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#3151573 - 02/04/13 04:19 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: woodsman87]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
Don't cackle, cutt, or call too much while they are still in the tree.



I never call to a bird in the tree.....I always wait till he hits the ground.
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#3151725 - 02/04/13 06:05 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: JAY B]
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#3151741 - 02/04/13 06:11 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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 Originally Posted By: Pic IN the Casa
Where ever you decide to set up, stay 30 minutes more than your mind tells you to. I've been busted a couple of times by telling myself this spot ain't working.


I think this applies more to situations when you are blind calling. If you are working a bird you may need to move several different times within a short time frame.
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#3151756 - 02/04/13 06:23 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Roost 1]
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 Originally Posted By: Roost 1
 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
Don't cackle, cutt, or call too much while they are still in the tree.



I never call to a bird in the tree.....I always wait till he hits the ground.
I agree. Years ago I would get in as close as I could to the roost and start calling and every time the birds would fly all the way across the hollow and when they hit the ground they wouldn't make a sound. I started to stay back a little and not call until they hit the ground and I started killing more birds.
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#3152002 - 02/04/13 08:16 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: String Music]
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Don't use locator calls and if you have them leave em at home so you aren't tempted to use them
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#3152109 - 02/04/13 09:17 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
Don't be afraid to get close to a bird before setting up. Use the terrain and foliage to set up as close as possible to a gobbling bird. Also do not call to said bird until you are close and set up in the best possible location to kill the bird.


 Originally Posted By: Setterman
Don't use locator calls and if you have them leave em at home so you aren't tempted to use them


This may be the oddest thing I've ever heard. If the birds don't gobble on there own (and some days they don't), how in the helll are you going to know where he's at if you don't use a locator call? Even if you hate locator calls, what would be the harm if some fool blew owl calls or crow calls all day? I am very curious how you hunt. You set up close to birds on the roost, but if he doesn't gobble on his own to give up his position you just go home? Keep in mind we all can't take off all of turkey season. We all can't hunt ranches with turkeys behind every tree and guys following their movements 7 days a week. Some of us hunt 2 hours from home and don't have the option of roosting a bird the night before. Your posts make no sense to me. "Set up close, but don't dare call to him on the limb, or use a locator call." Maybe you hunt places so full of turkeys they gobble every morning on their own. I can assure you here in West TN, there are days when they don't say a word unless you make them.
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#3152129 - 02/04/13 09:26 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
Don't use locator calls and if you have them leave em at home so you aren't tempted to use them


I tend to disagree here, I have a lot of success using a owl hoot at daybreak to locate turkeys. I prefer not to yelp to a turkey until I have set up, but turkeys will shock gobble to a owl hoot readily where I hunt.
If you yelp they will try and pin point the location and you can get busted moving in, whereas I believe if you hoot they are not concerned with the location.
Now I rarely use a crow call because I rarely get a response when I do and I only normally us the owl hoot at daybreak.

Just my opinion and experience.

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#3152140 - 02/04/13 09:32 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Layne]
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 Originally Posted By: Layne
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
Don't use locator calls and if you have them leave em at home so you aren't tempted to use them


I tend to disagree here, I have a lot of success using a owl hoot at daybreak to locate turkeys. I prefer not to yelp to a turkey until I have set up, but turkeys will shock gobble to a owl hoot readily where I hunt.
If you yelp they will try and pin point the location and you can get busted moving in, whereas I believe if you hoot they are not concerned with the location.
Now I rarely use a crow call because I rarely get a response when I do and I only normally us the owl hoot at daybreak.

Just my opinion and experience.


My experience as well. I almost never get a response to a crow call later in the day, but if they don't gobble on their own and I am racing daylight to get set up close, an owl call works wonders.
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#3152371 - 02/05/13 06:01 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Spurhunter]
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I have hunted all over west TN, and the rest of the SE, and rarely, maybe once a season have a morning where the birds are quiet on the limb unless the weather is total crap.

I have an entirely different style of hunting than 90% of the turkey hunters, and it is one that is based much more on patience than on the immediacy of making one gobble right now.

I have found over 20+ years and almost 200 dead longbeards, that a bird which gobbles on his own is far more likely to die than one that has to be shocked or beaten into sounding off.

I spend a lot of my mornings sitting in an area where I know birds should be close, and just listening. Not blind calling, and not using locator calls. It is absolutely stunning the numbers of birds that free gobble sporadically which most hunters never hear because they are constantly on the move, rustling in their vest for a call, or calling. I know because for a long time I was no different than most turkey hunters and used the same locating tactics that most still use.

A bird that free gobbles on his own after fly down is far easier to kill than a bird which has to be beaten into gobbling with locator calls. As many times the one that has to be helped has hens or is subordinate. While the free gobbler is generally alone and has gone to an area they feel comfortable to strut and seek out company.

If I get wild and do decide to try and strike a bird I use turkey calls. If you wisely use the terrain, know how the birds you hunt use the property, and don't over do it, than getting picked off is unlikely.

To each their own when it comes to how you enjoy your time in the woods. I'm just passing along what works for me each season, and has worked exceptionally well in bagging a bunch of longbeards over the years.

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#3152467 - 02/05/13 08:14 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
I have hunted all over west TN, and the rest of the SE, and rarely, maybe once a season have a morning where the birds are quiet on the limb unless the weather is total crap.

I have an entirely different style of hunting than 90% of the turkey hunters, and it is one that is based much more on patience than on the immediacy of making one gobble right now.

I have found over 20+ years and almost 200 dead longbeards, that a bird which gobbles on his own is far more likely to die than one that has to be shocked or beaten into sounding off.

I spend a lot of my mornings sitting in an area where I know birds should be close, and just listening. Not blind calling, and not using locator calls. It is absolutely stunning the numbers of birds that free gobble sporadically which most hunters never hear because they are constantly on the move, rustling in their vest for a call, or calling. I know because for a long time I was no different than most turkey hunters and used the same locating tactics that most still use.

A bird that free gobbles on his own after fly down is far easier to kill than a bird which has to be beaten into gobbling with locator calls. As many times the one that has to be helped has hens or is subordinate. While the free gobbler is generally alone and has gone to an area they feel comfortable to strut and seek out company.

If I get wild and do decide to try and strike a bird I use turkey calls. If you wisely use the terrain, know how the birds you hunt use the property, and don't over do it, than getting picked off is unlikely.

To each their own when it comes to how you enjoy your time in the woods. I'm just passing along what works for me each season, and has worked exceptionally well in bagging a bunch of longbeards over the years.



pretty dang solid advice right here

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#3152472 - 02/05/13 08:17 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
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People could learn a lot about how to kill turkeys by listening to ol Setterman.... Most hunters call way too much and too often just because it strokes their own ego. I understand we, as hunters, like to make them gobble, but lots of times that is not best especially on highly pressured birds. The more he gobbles the more likely he will gobble up a hen or another hunter... Less is usually best in my book. Every year I hear hunters blowing locator calls at birds that are already gobbling on their own..They may gobble at it but don't be surprised when either fly down the other way or shut up when they hit the ground. Remember every time he stops to gobble and strut it is gonna take that much longer to kill him and the longer it takes the more likely for something to go wrong.
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#3152589 - 02/05/13 09:34 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Roost 1]
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 Originally Posted By: Roost 1
People could learn a lot about how to kill turkeys by listening to ol Setterman.... Most hunters call way too much and too often just because it strokes their own ego. I understand we, as hunters, like to make them gobble, but lots of times that is not best especially on highly pressured birds. The more he gobbles the more likely he will gobble up a hen or another hunter... Less is usually best in my book. Every year I hear hunters blowing locator calls at birds that are already gobbling on their own..They may gobble at it but don't be surprised when either fly down the other way or shut up when they hit the ground. Remember every time he stops to gobble and strut it is gonna take that much longer to kill him and the longer it takes the more likely for something to go wrong.


I agree with this. I like to make them gobble too, but if you already know where he is there is no need to keep making him gobble just to hear him. That causes way too many problems. Turkeys get call shy quick, and if you continously call, no matter what call or animal you are trying to mimic if you spook him he becomes a lot smarter.
I have seen turkeys the last week or so of the season strutting in a field, and when I called, it literally sprinted in the oppisite direction.
Being able to call good and do the fancy cackles, fly down caclks, cutts, or whatever is so overated.

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#3152594 - 02/05/13 09:40 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: woodsman87]
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It is amazing to me how much more successful I became when I finally got it through my hard skull to quit cackling and cutting. And to especially not call hard while he is in the tree, mainly the last two-three weeks of the season. Soft mating yelps, clucks, and purrs when you get close to an ole gobbler is what works.
Although I am versatile with my calls, I feel like any slate/glass is the best because I feel like these are the less used by other hunters.

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#3152679 - 02/05/13 11:00 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: woodsman87]
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#3152879 - 02/05/13 01:59 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: timberjack86]
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#3153065 - 02/05/13 05:17 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
I have hunted all over west TN, and the rest of the SE, and rarely, maybe once a season have a morning where the birds are quiet on the limb unless the weather is total crap.

I have an entirely different style of hunting than 90% of the turkey hunters, and it is one that is based much more on patience than on the immediacy of making one gobble right now.

I have found over 20+ years and almost 200 dead longbeards, that a bird which gobbles on his own is far more likely to die than one that has to be shocked or beaten into sounding off.

I spend a lot of my mornings sitting in an area where I know birds should be close, and just listening. Not blind calling, and not using locator calls. It is absolutely stunning the numbers of birds that free gobble sporadically which most hunters never hear because they are constantly on the move, rustling in their vest for a call, or calling. I know because for a long time I was no different than most turkey hunters and used the same locating tactics that most still use.

A bird that free gobbles on his own after fly down is far easier to kill than a bird which has to be beaten into gobbling with locator calls. As many times the one that has to be helped has hens or is subordinate. While the free gobbler is generally alone and has gone to an area they feel comfortable to strut and seek out company.

If I get wild and do decide to try and strike a bird I use turkey calls. If you wisely use the terrain, know how the birds you hunt use the property, and don't over do it, than getting picked off is unlikely.

To each their own when it comes to how you enjoy your time in the woods. I'm just passing along what works for me each season, and has worked exceptionally well in bagging a bunch of longbeards over the years.

I agree 100%. I hunt the same way and have killed a bunch of longbeards by huntin this way.
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#3153101 - 02/05/13 05:45 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
I have hunted all over west TN, and the rest of the SE, and rarely, maybe once a season have a morning where the birds are quiet on the limb unless the weather is total crap.

I have an entirely different style of hunting than 90% of the turkey hunters, and it is one that is based much more on patience than on the immediacy of making one gobble right now.

I have found over 20+ years and almost 200 dead longbeards, that a bird which gobbles on his own is far more likely to die than one that has to be shocked or beaten into sounding off.

I spend a lot of my mornings sitting in an area where I know birds should be close, and just listening. Not blind calling, and not using locator calls. It is absolutely stunning the numbers of birds that free gobble sporadically which most hunters never hear because they are constantly on the move, rustling in their vest for a call, or calling. I know because for a long time I was no different than most turkey hunters and used the same locating tactics that most still use.

A bird that free gobbles on his own after fly down is far easier to kill than a bird which has to be beaten into gobbling with locator calls. As many times the one that has to be helped has hens or is subordinate. While the free gobbler is generally alone and has gone to an area they feel comfortable to strut and seek out company.

If I get wild and do decide to try and strike a bird I use turkey calls. If you wisely use the terrain, know how the birds you hunt use the property, and don't over do it, than getting picked off is unlikely.

To each their own when it comes to how you enjoy your time in the woods. I'm just passing along what works for me each season, and has worked exceptionally well in bagging a bunch of longbeards over the years.



The proof is in the pudding, and you've definitely killed more than your share. I just don't understand what makes a bird that gobbles at an owl or a crow easier to kill than one that gobbles at an owl or crow call.

Also, my son is with me most of the time, and lives to turkey hunt. I think getting set up early is even more important when you have a kid with you. Not to mention, it's a lot harder to move on a bird after daylight with a kid in tow.
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#3153126 - 02/05/13 06:06 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Spurhunter]
RutMutt
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Never give up. You ever get a bird that just gets under your skin? That just makes me strive harder to kill him.
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#3153294 - 02/05/13 08:25 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: RutMutt]
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Woodpile Boys
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Ole Setterman is getting fired up and its not even March yet.

Love it!!
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#3153330 - 02/05/13 08:59 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: TurkeyBurd]
Mike Belt
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If I had 1 question about turkey hunting it would be as follows:

What's the difference or what makes turkeys that are gobbling their heads off from the roost well into the morning one fine turkey hunting day be absolutely lockjawed the very next identical morning?
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#3153338 - 02/05/13 09:12 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: TurkeyBurd]
Setterman
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 Originally Posted By: TurkeyBurd
Ole Setterman is getting fired up and its not even March yet.

Love it!!


I'm not even close to being fired up yet, you know better than that.

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#3153339 - 02/05/13 09:12 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Mike Belt]
Setterman
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 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
If I had 1 question about turkey hunting it would be as follows:

What's the difference or what makes turkeys that are gobbling their heads off from the roost well into the morning one fine turkey hunting day be absolutely lockjawed the very next identical morning?


This is easy, they are turkeys and are bat **** crazy.

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#3153348 - 02/05/13 09:16 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Mike Belt]
Spurhunter
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 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
If I had 1 question about turkey hunting it would be as follows:

What's the difference or what makes turkeys that are gobbling their heads off from the roost well into the morning one fine turkey hunting day be absolutely lockjawed the very next identical morning?


I wish I knew. It happens to me a lot. But the turkeys always gobble for some folks. Weird.
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#3153369 - 02/05/13 09:41 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Spurhunter]
SEC
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I would say my number one tip would be find a farm that is loaded with turkeys. Everything else will take care of itself. They are dumb.
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#3153391 - 02/05/13 10:08 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
knightrider
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
If I had 1 question about turkey hunting it would be as follows:

What's the difference or what makes turkeys that are gobbling their heads off from the roost well into the morning one fine turkey hunting day be absolutely lockjawed the very next identical morning?


This is easy, they are turkeys and are bat **** crazy.
exactly,turkeys are turkeys and you have to learn how to be one!! if you boys want good tips and ideals how to kill more birds in more situations you need to listen to this man, he definately knows what he is doing!! ive killed my share and "think" im pretty good at it but ole setterman has anybody i know whooped when it comes to turkey hunting. there my man crush is over
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#3153455 - 02/06/13 04:51 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
Uncle Jesse
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman


I have found over 20+ years and almost 200 dead longbeards, that a bird which gobbles on his own is far more likely to die than one that has to be shocked or beaten into sounding off.


I started 14 years ago and I only hunt Tennessee so I ain't killed anywhere near 200, but for birds still in the trees, my experience has been exactly the opposite. I'll always have a locator call for this reason.


 Originally Posted By: Setterman
A bird that free gobbles on his own after fly down is far easier to kill than a bird which has to be beaten into gobbling with locator calls. As many times the one that has to be helped has hens or is subordinate. While the free gobbler is generally alone and has gone to an area they feel comfortable to strut and seek out company.


This has been my experience with birds on the ground too.
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#3153651 - 02/06/13 09:54 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: knightrider]
String Music
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 Originally Posted By: knightrider
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
If I had 1 question about turkey hunting it would be as follows:

What's the difference or what makes turkeys that are gobbling their heads off from the roost well into the morning one fine turkey hunting day be absolutely lockjawed the very next identical morning?


This is easy, they are turkeys and are bat **** crazy.
exactly,turkeys are turkeys and you have to learn how to be one!! if you boys want good tips and ideals how to kill more birds in more situations you need to listen to this man, he definately knows what he is doing!! ive killed my share and "think" im pretty good at it but ole setterman has anybody i know whooped when it comes to turkey hunting. there my man crush is over


I'll take on Setterman any day of the week! He does know a thing or two about turkey hunting, though...
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#3153654 - 02/06/13 09:56 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
String Music
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
If I had 1 question about turkey hunting it would be as follows:

What's the difference or what makes turkeys that are gobbling their heads off from the roost well into the morning one fine turkey hunting day be absolutely lockjawed the very next identical morning?


This is easy, they are turkeys and are bat **** crazy.


Weather is a key factor as well.
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#3153985 - 02/06/13 03:05 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: String Music]
Setterman
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 Originally Posted By: String Music
 Originally Posted By: knightrider
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
If I had 1 question about turkey hunting it would be as follows:

What's the difference or what makes turkeys that are gobbling their heads off from the roost well into the morning one fine turkey hunting day be absolutely lockjawed the very next identical morning?


This is easy, they are turkeys and are bat **** crazy.
exactly,turkeys are turkeys and you have to learn how to be one!! if you boys want good tips and ideals how to kill more birds in more situations you need to listen to this man, he definately knows what he is doing!! ive killed my share and "think" im pretty good at it but ole setterman has anybody i know whooped when it comes to turkey hunting. there my man crush is over


I'll take on Setterman any day of the week! He does know a thing or two about turkey hunting, though...


Bring it \:\) , get you off that private honey hole in White Oak and let you come play with me on the public land birds.

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#3154077 - 02/06/13 04:55 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Mike Belt]
RutMutt
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Someone once explained to me that it is kind of like watching a ballgame. If you cheer and scream for your team, you don't feel like talking the next day.


 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
If I had 1 question about turkey hunting it would be as follows:

What's the difference or what makes turkeys that are gobbling their heads off from the roost well into the morning one fine turkey hunting day be absolutely lockjawed the very next identical morning?
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#3154106 - 02/06/13 05:20 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
String Music
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
 Originally Posted By: String Music
 Originally Posted By: knightrider
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
If I had 1 question about turkey hunting it would be as follows:

What's the difference or what makes turkeys that are gobbling their heads off from the roost well into the morning one fine turkey hunting day be absolutely lockjawed the very next identical morning?


This is easy, they are turkeys and are bat **** crazy.
exactly,turkeys are turkeys and you have to learn how to be one!! if you boys want good tips and ideals how to kill more birds in more situations you need to listen to this man, he definately knows what he is doing!! ive killed my share and "think" im pretty good at it but ole setterman has anybody i know whooped when it comes to turkey hunting. there my man crush is over


I'll take on Setterman any day of the week! He does know a thing or two about turkey hunting, though...


Bring it \:\) , get you off that private honey hole in White Oak and let you come play with me on the public land birds.



I'm no stranger to public land- Royal Blue offers some great turkey hunting!
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#3154463 - 02/06/13 09:27 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: String Music]
Setterman
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 Originally Posted By: String Music
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
 Originally Posted By: String Music
 Originally Posted By: knightrider
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
If I had 1 question about turkey hunting it would be as follows:

What's the difference or what makes turkeys that are gobbling their heads off from the roost well into the morning one fine turkey hunting day be absolutely lockjawed the very next identical morning?


This is easy, they are turkeys and are bat **** crazy.
exactly,turkeys are turkeys and you have to learn how to be one!! if you boys want good tips and ideals how to kill more birds in more situations you need to listen to this man, he definately knows what he is doing!! ive killed my share and "think" im pretty good at it but ole setterman has anybody i know whooped when it comes to turkey hunting. there my man crush is over


I'll take on Setterman any day of the week! He does know a thing or two about turkey hunting, though...


Bring it \:\) , get you off that private honey hole in White Oak and let you come play with me on the public land birds.



I'm no stranger to public land- Royal Blue offers some great turkey hunting!


Trust me I know, and are you seriously going to take a thread designed to help folks into an oppty to talk trash to me? I am certainly game, but by all means start a new topic if you want to talk trash. Let this one serve it's purpose.

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#3154506 - 02/06/13 10:13 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
tnturkey30
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my best advice to give you is to take up fishing!!! these crazy things will drive you CRAZY!!!! you will see birds gobble their guts out all day one day and the next nothing !!! it has alot to do with weather and barometric pressure !! Heck a coyote could be within eyesight of the birds and shut up on the limb..they could still be talking and you would not have a clue... they make over 20 different vocalazations that we cant hear with our natural ear.. you never know....Setterman being a biologist can tell you all this though :-) !!if you wanna learn alot about turkeys watch a PBS series called My life as a Turkey....
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#3156475 - 02/08/13 04:15 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
timberjack86
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
I have hunted all over west TN, and the rest of the SE, and rarely, maybe once a season have a morning where the birds are quiet on the limb unless the weather is total crap.

I have an entirely different style of hunting than 90% of the turkey hunters, and it is one that is based much more on patience than on the immediacy of making one gobble right now.

I have found over 20+ years and almost 200 dead longbeards, that a bird which gobbles on his own is far more likely to die than one that has to be shocked or beaten into sounding off.

I spend a lot of my mornings sitting in an area where I know birds should be close, and just listening. Not blind calling, and not using locator calls. It is absolutely stunning the numbers of birds that free gobble sporadically which most hunters never hear because they are constantly on the move, rustling in their vest for a call, or calling. I know because for a long time I was no different than most turkey hunters and used the same locating tactics that most still use.

A bird that free gobbles on his own after fly down is far easier to kill than a bird which has to be beaten into gobbling with locator calls. As many times the one that has to be helped has hens or is subordinate. While the free gobbler is generally alone and has gone to an area they feel comfortable to strut and seek out company.

If I get wild and do decide to try and strike a bird I use turkey calls. If you wisely use the terrain, know how the birds you hunt use the property, and don't over do it, than getting picked off is unlikely.

To each their own when it comes to how you enjoy your time in the woods. I'm just passing along what works for me each season, and has worked exceptionally well in bagging a bunch of longbeards over the years.

Very good tip. I started hunting turkeys this way and have gotten away from it. I think I get caught up in the excitement of it all and call and move way to much. I am going to slow way down this spring. Thanks for the tip!!
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#3156679 - 02/08/13 07:15 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: JAY B]
tickweed
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Ive lost more gobblers by hesitation. Even if only for a few seconds. Have confidence in yourself If you need to move,move. Bust him, so what, it happens.
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#3156713 - 02/08/13 07:40 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: tickweed]
muddyboots
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 Originally Posted By: tickweed
Ive lost more gobblers by hesitation. Even if only for a few seconds. Have confidence in yourself If you need to move,move. Bust him, so what, it happens.


Yep!!
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#3156855 - 02/08/13 09:23 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: tickweed]
Setterman
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 Originally Posted By: tickweed
Ive lost more gobblers by hesitation. Even if only for a few seconds. Have confidence in yourself If you need to move,move. Bust him, so what, it happens.


Good tip, if you feel you need to make a move do it and don't second guess. By the time you do, it may be over.

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#3156859 - 02/08/13 09:27 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
Wes Parrish
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On those early season morning hunts, don't walk across a field after it's already light. Walk across before light, or walk around it. In the early season open woods, roosted birds can sometimes see you from an incredible distance, especially if you walk across a more open area.

And along this same thought, one of the biggest mistakes I see some hunters making is placing a decoy out in a field after it's already light enough to see, not realizing the roosted birds are watching them.

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#3157286 - 02/09/13 11:13 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Wes Parrish]
Layne
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
On those early season morning hunts, don't walk across a field after it's already light. Walk across before light, or walk around it. In the early season open woods, roosted birds can sometimes see you from an incredible distance, especially if you walk across a more open area.

And along this same thought, one of the biggest mistakes I see some hunters making is placing a decoy out in a field after it's already light enough to see, not realizing the roosted birds are watching them.


Agree, you can get away with a lot less in the early spring woods than later.

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#3157853 - 02/09/13 08:27 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: tickweed]
bvoss
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Registered: 01/11/10
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 Originally Posted By: tickweed
Ive lost more gobblers by hesitation. Even if only for a few seconds. Have confidence in yourself If you need to move,move. Bust him, so what, it happens.
sooooo true!
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#3158181 - 02/10/13 06:49 AM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Setterman]
Hawk
TnDeer Old Timer
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
I have hunted all over west TN, and the rest of the SE, and rarely, maybe once a season have a morning where the birds are quiet on the limb unless the weather is total crap.



Do I know you? I should since that's the same areas I have hunted since the late seventies. Left out Mark Twain in Mo.
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#3158927 - 02/10/13 05:09 PM Re: 1 Tip you could offer [Re: Hawk]
Setterman
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 Originally Posted By: Hawk
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
I have hunted all over west TN, and the rest of the SE, and rarely, maybe once a season have a morning where the birds are quiet on the limb unless the weather is total crap.



Do I know you? I should since that's the same areas I have hunted since the late seventies. Left out Mark Twain in Mo.


Never hunted Mo, would like to sometime but haven't gotten there

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