#3147058 - 01/31/13 03:27 PM
Re: turkey guns
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Wes Parrish
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On the other hand, Andy, you could just use a really cheap "squirrel" load for the chamber, knowing that under 35 yards it gets the job done just fine. Then save those expensive shells for just when needed. 
Over the years I killed many turkeys with the same shells I hunted squirrels, and a few with #7 1/2 dove loads. Get them up close, and the gun and shell matter little.
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#3147157 - 01/31/13 04:55 PM
Re: turkey guns
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Very true Wes, however, I really LOVE the fact that few turkeys these days flop at all, and at most, only a few times after the shot. This has been my experience since switching to HTL shot. I never experienced that with lead shot (#4s), even with close shots, over a ten year period. I also like having the extra "umph" the hot HTL loads add to bust one that is hung up strutting at 45-50 yards IF NEED BE. I much prefer shooting a turkey between the 30 and 40 yard mark (prob. 75% of my kills), but I am not the turkey killing machine like some claim to be, that kills all of their turkeys under 35 yards.  I am not referring to you, but I read of so many turkey hunters online that make that claim. I know that "how much one flops" matters little in the end, but I have grown accustomed to pulling the trigger and very little floppage happening, if you know what I mean.  It is by no means the right way or only way, but it is my tried and true way and what I have the most confidence in, thus the reason I do what I do.
Edited by Andy S. (01/31/13 04:57 PM)
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#3147178 - 01/31/13 05:25 PM
Re: turkey guns
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Look I'm not turning this to a "this ammo is what you should use" debate. Just saying if you are shooting good ammo why put lesser ammo as the 2nd? If I need a 2nd shot I want it to count
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#3147193 - 01/31/13 05:42 PM
Re: turkey guns
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Andy S.
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Look I'm not turning this to a "this ammo is what you should use" debate.  Regardless, I agree with you on that, to each their own as far as what they prefer. One should shoot what one has confidence in.
If I need a 2nd shot I want it to count
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#3147239 - 01/31/13 06:20 PM
Re: turkey guns
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I'm not referring to you Andy (or anyone really) I just want to be clear before it goes to that.
I shoot magblends an my set up loves them. If I were to need a 2nd shot i wouldn't want it to be a Winchester HV I'd want it to be a magblend because that is the optimum shell for my set up
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#3147549 - 01/31/13 10:03 PM
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I shoot the magblends as well but I do at times have my second shot as a 4 shot, my theory is that the second shot will be at a bird fleeing so at a further distance I prefer a larger shot...
I will say that when I have missed I have hesitated on the second shot just because it takes a second for my brain to comprehend that I just missed and that that turkey isn't flopping around on the ground... 
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#3147857 - 02/01/13 07:41 AM
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actually looking back at all my pattern tests, the kents were not too bad for lead....the Hornady shells on the other hand were pretty pathetic
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#3148068 - 02/01/13 10:05 AM
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I usually dont miss on the 1st. I am confident out to 60. Shot one last year at 74, even though I would rather them be much closer. I pattern with both and they pattern similar, the hevi is just a tiny bit better, by no means is the kent Crappy in my book. If I used all kent I would still be very confident.
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#3148132 - 02/01/13 10:59 AM
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Very true Wes, however, I really LOVE the fact that few turkeys these days flop at all, and at most, only a few times after the shot. This has been my experience since switching to HTL shot.
Like you, I have also experienced less "flopping" since switching over to HTL shells. Just saying at the ranges I actually kill most of my turkeys (even now having a gun/shells combo capable of making high-probability shots out to 50 yards), I'd go home each season with about as many turkeys no matter that kind of shells I had loaded.
This is in part because I more greatly enjoy getting them up close, watching them strut, hearing them drum, etc., and am usually not eager to shoot one just because he steps within the potential range of my turkey gun. The majority are still killed under 30 yards, and I think the main reason more hunters aren't killing more birds up closer is simply because they are so quick to shoot once a bird barely enters their guns' potential.
It may very well be I'm often more interested in "working" a bird up close than just killing him.
Besides, if I'm going to be using these expensive shells, I need to get as much as possible out of the hunt!
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