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#3145859 - 01/30/13 03:41 PM Re: CRAZY DISCOVERY today... [Re: catman529]
Ashland Ford
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I was thinking it could be the water, as you said, I always look for ducks. Have not seen any in a while there. Something is up though. I don't think they died by natural causes.
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#3146190 - 01/30/13 07:51 PM Re: CRAZY DISCOVERY today... [Re: Ashland Ford]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Ashland Ford
I was thinking it could be the water, as you said, I always look for ducks. Have not seen any in a while there. Something is up though. I don't think they died by natural causes.

the water was full of big tadpoles. If there is poison in the water then it would have to affect deer but not frogs. If there is any substance that could do that. I doubt the ponds are poisoned.
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#3146318 - 01/30/13 09:08 PM Re: CRAZY DISCOVERY today... [Re: Tar12]
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 Originally Posted By: Tar12
That picture has EHD written all over it. It is all to common of a sight here in West Central Indiana in recent years. EHD is transmitted from the midge fly. Areas with high deer densities get hit the hardest.Typically the worst outbreaks occur after flooding as the Midge fly lays it larvae in the mud flats that the receding waters leave behind. This will also occur in severe drought conditions as the water evaporates and leaves mud flats behind.What have your weather conditions been in recent weeks? While scouting this past summer my son and I found a total of 12 dead deer at various ponds on this particular farm. Several weeks back I watched a show that Micheal Wadell was hosting and it was about the massive EHD kill on the Milk River in Montanna.It was very sad to say the least. They found deer after after deer lying dead upon the banks and in the water. While filming a buck came to the river and waded in and started swimming in circles until he became to exhausted to carry on and drowned. The worst about this disease is that there is nothing they can do about it.


But isnt it late in the season to be dying from EHD....i thought that was over in sept and or oct......have not heard of them dying that late in the season from it????
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#3148037 - 02/01/13 09:45 AM Re: CRAZY DISCOVERY today... [Re: catman529]
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Any word on the investigation?
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#3148064 - 02/01/13 10:03 AM Re: CRAZY DISCOVERY today... [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: Ashland Ford
I was thinking it could be the water, as you said, I always look for ducks. Have not seen any in a while there. Something is up though. I don't think they died by natural causes.

the water was full of big tadpoles. If there is poison in the water then it would have to affect deer but not frogs. If there is any substance that could do that. I doubt the ponds are poisoned.

Frogs are one of the 1st species to show signs from polluted water.
Be careful poking around there you don't fall in yourself Catman. Seems drowning is the most likely cause. Someone should notify county officials of the danger.
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#3148112 - 02/01/13 10:42 AM Re: CRAZY DISCOVERY today... [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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 Originally Posted By: WestTn Huntin'man
 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: Ashland Ford
I was thinking it could be the water, as you said, I always look for ducks. Have not seen any in a while there. Something is up though. I don't think they died by natural causes.

the water was full of big tadpoles. If there is poison in the water then it would have to affect deer but not frogs. If there is any substance that could do that. I doubt the ponds are poisoned.

Frogs are one of the 1st species to show signs from polluted water.
Be careful poking around there you don't fall in yourself Catman. Seems drowning is the most likely cause. Someone should notify county officials of the danger.
I will definitely be careful in case the pond liner is the cause... if it's safe, then I may have me a new frog gigging spot for the summer \:D
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#3148145 - 02/01/13 11:11 AM Re: CRAZY DISCOVERY today... [Re: catman529]
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Im betting some type poison somewhere as well, may not be the pond water, may just be where they ended up dieing!
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#3148154 - 02/01/13 11:22 AM Re: CRAZY DISCOVERY today... [Re: Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: Winchester
Im betting some type poison somewhere as well, may not be the pond water, may just be where they ended up dieing!
I was thinking that too. Maybe some kind of poison that caused them to seek water
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#3148216 - 02/01/13 12:24 PM Re: CRAZY DISCOVERY today... [Re: Barrett]
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Hey y'all I got an update -

I am just leaving the ponds now. I found 2 of the other deer mentioned, one out of the water was just a skeleton (may have been dragged out)

But, I think I found the cause... I took a sapling and poked around in the water. A few feet from shore, the bottom drops off very steeply. The ponds are lined in the black rubber. I think they are too steep for the deer to escape. I was standing in 6 inches of water with boots because the recent storms raised the water a bit. Within arms reach with the stick I could feel the bottom drop at a very steep angle down to 2 or 3 ft deep within 2 or 3 ft horizontally. I don't know how deep the ponds are but it wouldn't matter if the deer could never climb back out.
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#3148227 - 02/01/13 12:38 PM Re: CRAZY DISCOVERY today... [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
Hey y'all I got an update -

I am just leaving the ponds now. I found 2 of the other deer mentioned, one out of the water was just a skeleton (may have been dragged out)

But, I think I found the cause... I took a sapling and poked around in the water. A few feet from shore, the bottom drops off very steeply. The ponds are lined in the black rubber. I think they are too steep for the deer to escape. I was standing in 6 inches of water with boots because the recent storms raised the water a bit. Within arms reach with the stick I could feel the bottom drop at a very steep angle down to 2 or 3 ft deep within 2 or 3 ft horizontally. I don't know how deep the ponds are but it wouldn't matter if the deer could never climb back out.


I didn't read all of the posts but your next stop maybe should be TWRA so they can get that taken care of...dang kid may get in that or something
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