Tndeer Logo

Page 1 of 1 1
Topic Options
#3147891 - 02/01/13 08:08 AM 7 Myths of the Columbine Shooting
Nimrod777
Non-Typical


Registered: 09/28/03
Posts: 25782
Loc: Spring Hill, TN

Offline
Found this today while researching some Columbine details. It is based on a book called Columbine, and showed me how many things I "knew" were off-base. Thought it was interesting enough to share.

How do you review a book like Columbine? It’s hard to say, “I enjoyed the book.” After all, it’s one of the most frightening, tragic, disturbing books I’ve read in a long time. And yet, it is so meticulous in its research and so compelling in its presentation that one can’t help but admire how well the author, Dave Cullen, told the story.

I thought I knew the basic facts about the deadly shooting at Columbine High School in 1999. I was wrong. Here are seven common myths about that tragic day:

Myth #1: The Columbine killers were social misfits who were bullied by their classmates.

Truth: Eric Harris was a lady’s man, a charmer who had a number of good friends at school. Dylan Klebold went to the prom the weekend before the shooting.

Both killers attended football games, dances, and school plays. Despite the media reports, neither of them were linked to the “Trench Coat Mafia.” Nor were they part of a street gang or known to dress in Gothic style.

Myth #2: The Columbine killers planned a shooting spree inside the school.


Truth: Columbine was a failed bombing. Eric and Dylan planted a bomb inside the cafeteria and then went outside to wait for it to explode. Their initial plan was to shoot students who tried to escape the building in the aftermath. Only once the bomb failed to ignite did they make their way inside to begin shooting students.

Myth #3: The Columbine killers targeted certain kinds of students.

Truth: Although initial news reports claimed the Columbine killers had targeted minorities, jocks, and Christians, the killing was indiscriminate. Their initial plan was to blow up hundreds of students in the cafeteria. When the bombs failed to go off, they killed students randomly. Interestingly enough, Eric’s friends described him as a sports enthusiast, and two of his best friends were Asian and African American.

Myth #4: The Columbine situation was a hostage standoff.


Truth: It is true that news reports initially treated the situation at Columbine as a hostage standoff, perhaps due to the fact that police officers did not enter the building until more than 40 minutes after the shooting began. But the Columbine killers never planned to hold hostages. Their goal was total destruction, not particular demands. It took three hours for the SWAT teams to find the killers (3:15 p.m.). They had been dead since 12:08, just forty-nine minutes after the attack began.

Myth #5. There were no warning signs that could have prevented the Columbine massacre.

Truth: Other parents had complained about Eric Harris, multiple times. Both Eric and Dylan had been arrested before. Thirteen months before the shooting, investigators discovered evidence that Eric was building pipe bombs. Dozens of pages of obscene threats on the internet were also documented. The sheriff’s department covered up the initial evidence that signaled the threat.

Myth #6: Cassie Bernall was martyred for her faith in God.


Truth: According to the eyewitness under the table with her, Cassie was shot when Eric poked his shotgun under the table and said, “Peekaboo.” The 911 tape verifies this testimony.

The martyr story arose from the testimony from another student in the library, Craig Scott (brother to victim, Rachel Scott), who recounted a conversation that took place across the room. Valeen Schnurr was the one who actually professed her faith in God, and this took place after she was shot. As she lay bleeding, she prayed, “Oh my God, don’t let me die.” Dylan turned around and asked her, “God? Do you believe in God?” Valeen said, “Yes, I believe in God.” When the killer asked why, she replied, “Because it’s how my parents raised me.”

Myth #7: Columbine students and teachers were able to communicate with each other via cell phones.


Truth: Though some students were able to call newscasters, the teachers and students hiding in the school were unable to communicate due to the ear-piercing fire alarm that blared for hours. The sprinkler system flooded the cafeteria, and the fire alarm and strobe lighting caused difficulty in communications with the SWAT team. Much of the terror and confusion that day was caused by the nerve-wracking alarm system that interfered with communication.
_________________________
Some hunt for racks, some hunt for roasts. I hunt for sheer joy; the aforementioned items are merely fringe benefits.

Top
#3147946 - 02/01/13 08:48 AM Re: 7 Myths of the Columbine Shooting [Re: Nimrod777]
MUP
Non-Typical


Registered: 08/01/07
Posts: 44434
Loc: Just North of Chatt-town

Offline
And, all this while the last Hi-Cap magazine ban was in effect too I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong please.
_________________________
MUP

Amateurs: Built the Ark

Professionals: Built the Titanic

Top
#3147983 - 02/01/13 09:08 AM Re: 7 Myths of the Columbine Shooting [Re: MUP]
punkcat
4 Point


Registered: 03/27/10
Posts: 130
Loc: The Rock

Offline
I have watched the FBI video that puts a 911 call in unison with school security video and all of your points are correct. One of the most disturbing videos I have ever seen in over 20 years in LE.
Top
#3147988 - 02/01/13 09:11 AM Re: 7 Myths of the Columbine Shooting [Re: MUP]
Nimrod777
Non-Typical


Registered: 09/28/03
Posts: 25782
Loc: Spring Hill, TN

Offline
 Originally Posted By: MUP
And, all this while the last Hi-Cap magazine ban was in effect too I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong please.


5 years into the Federal Ban, yep.
_________________________
Some hunt for racks, some hunt for roasts. I hunt for sheer joy; the aforementioned items are merely fringe benefits.

Top
#3147990 - 02/01/13 09:12 AM Re: 7 Myths of the Columbine Shooting [Re: punkcat]
Nimrod777
Non-Typical


Registered: 09/28/03
Posts: 25782
Loc: Spring Hill, TN

Offline
 Originally Posted By: punkcat
I have watched the FBI video that puts a 911 call in unison with school security video and all of your points are correct. One of the most disturbing videos I have ever seen in over 20 years in LE.


I get zero credit, this is all taken from a reviewer of the book Columbine.

Yeah, that's one of those vids I don't need to see, ever.
_________________________
Some hunt for racks, some hunt for roasts. I hunt for sheer joy; the aforementioned items are merely fringe benefits.

Top
#3147998 - 02/01/13 09:16 AM Re: 7 Myths of the Columbine Shooting [Re: Nimrod777]
AndyW
10 Point


Registered: 10/21/10
Posts: 4351
Loc: Allardt, TN

content Online
One of my best friends is a Denver firefighter that responded to Columbine. We dont talk about it, ever.
_________________________
This fall, FIRE THEM ALL. Re-elect NO ONE!!!!!

Top
Page 1 of 1 1


Moderator:  RUGER, Unicam, gtk, Tennessee Todd, Lakeland Charlie, Cuttin Caller, CBU93, stretch, TurkeyBurd, MAN, Bobby G, Kimber45, Crappie Luck 
Hop to:
Top Posters
4105246
RUGER
86699
Deer Assassin
65056
BSK
60881
Crappie Luck
51376
spitndrum
Newest Members
TboneD, sbhockey, ZachA, DocT, Raegan
13202 Registered Users
Who's Online
102 registered (HowattHS, Mike D, leader, DaveB, Tn_River_Ratt, Hillbilly Hunter, 10 invisible) and 128 anonymous users online.
Forum Stats
13202 Members
42 Forums
91494 Topics
1069633 Posts

Max Online: 788 @ 11/11/13 08:06 PM
Moon Phase
CURRENT MOON
August
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31
Forum Donations
The TnDeer.Com Deer Talk Forum is for Tennessee Deer Hunters by Tennessee Deer Hunters. If you enjoy using our Talk Forum and would like to contribute to help in it's up-keep. Just submit your contribution by clicking on the DONATE button below and paying with PayPal or a major credit card. Any amount is much appreciated. Thanks for your support!

TN Burn Safe

Generated in 0.042 seconds in which 0.003 seconds were spent on a total of 14 queries. Zlib compression enabled.