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#3145299 - 01/30/13 09:07 AM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: 44fanatic]
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We will see.... probably in the near future the way things are going...
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#3145350 - 01/30/13 09:40 AM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: 44fanatic]
in the dog house!
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 Originally Posted By: 44fanatic
I see four possible incidents upon which the military would use deadly force:

1) Rioters charging and attacking barricade/control lines
2) Right wing extremists (individuals and groups) who do not believe in the federal government firing upon military and agency positions/facilites. Hostile actions (ambush, sniper) would be initiated by the extremist. Or action being taken by the military based upon intelligence reporting of extremist strongholds and locations with the extremist initiating the hostile action.
3) A "panic" situation where a military member feels threatened and fires upon civilians. This would be investigated and the information gained would then be used and disseminated to troops so that hopefully another similar incident would not happen again.
4) Troops returning fire upon disgruntled individuals. This would be deliberate and directed fire, not a squad opening up with all weapons. This is where the training really kicks in.



Or after a hurricane comes through and the military goes in to disarm the people that are just trying to protect themselves from looting. If that happened here and the tried to take peoples gun around here, well I dont think it would end like it did in LA.
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#3145363 - 01/30/13 09:52 AM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: in the dog house!]
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 Originally Posted By: in the dog house!
 Originally Posted By: 44fanatic
I see four possible incidents upon which the military would use deadly force:

1) Rioters charging and attacking barricade/control lines
2) Right wing extremists (individuals and groups) who do not believe in the federal government firing upon military and agency positions/facilites. Hostile actions (ambush, sniper) would be initiated by the extremist. Or action being taken by the military based upon intelligence reporting of extremist strongholds and locations with the extremist initiating the hostile action.
3) A "panic" situation where a military member feels threatened and fires upon civilians. This would be investigated and the information gained would then be used and disseminated to troops so that hopefully another similar incident would not happen again.
4) Troops returning fire upon disgruntled individuals. This would be deliberate and directed fire, not a squad opening up with all weapons. This is where the training really kicks in.



Or after a hurricane comes through and the military goes in to disarm the people that are just trying to protect themselves from looting. If that happened here and the tried to take peoples gun around here, well I dont think it would end like it did in LA.


From a military perspective and law enforcement perspective, I would not want armed indivuals ON THE STREET during or following a chaotic event. In their homes or place of business, highly encouraged. After Katrina, the military and other involved agencies would have conducted after action reviews and published "lessons learned". These Lessons Learned and other input would then be placed into policy and regulation as to how to handle similar situations.

This issue has been addressed:
SEC. 3. PROHIBITION ON CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS DURING CERTAIN NATIONAL EMERGENCIES.

Title VII of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5201 et seq.) is amended by adding at the end the following:

`SEC. 706. FIREARMS POLICIES.

`(a) Prohibition on Confiscation of Firearms- No officer or employee of the United States (including any member of the uniformed services), person operating pursuant to or under color of Federal law, receiving Federal funds, under the control of any Federal official, or providing services to such an officer, employee, or other person, while acting in support of relief from a major disaster or emergency, may--
`(1) temporarily or permanently seize, or authorize seizure of, any firearm the possession of which is not prohibited under Federal or State law, other than for forfeiture in compliance with Federal law or as evidence in a criminal investigation;
`(2) require the registration of any firearm for which registration is not required by Federal or State law;
`(3) prohibit the possession of any firearm, or promulgate any rule, regulation, or order prohibiting the possession of any firearm, in any place or by any person where such possession is not otherwise prohibited by Federal or State law; or
`(4) prohibit the carrying of a firearm by any person otherwise authorized to carry firearms under Federal or State law, solely because such person is operating under the direction, control, or supervision of a Federal agency in support of relief from a major disaster or emergency.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.+2599:


Edited by 44fanatic (01/30/13 10:00 AM)
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#3145393 - 01/30/13 10:17 AM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: 44fanatic]
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#3145396 - 01/30/13 10:19 AM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: Stalkhunter]
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The Patriot Act and NDAA Act, is unconstitutional.
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#3145408 - 01/30/13 10:29 AM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: Stalkhunter]
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Why was I allowed to carry rounds in SC, Cal, but was not allowed to in Beruit. hmmm
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#3145419 - 01/30/13 10:36 AM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: Stalkhunter]
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We both took the same oath...

Educate me on the NDAA and what is unconsitutional about it.
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#3145481 - 01/30/13 11:14 AM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: 44fanatic]
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Amen Stalkhunter.
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#3145553 - 01/30/13 12:19 PM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: 348Winchester]
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44fantic,

Thank you for a series of logical, rational, dispassionate and informative posts in this thread and elsewhere. I have no doubt that The Kenyan and his minions are dead set on transforming our nation into something unrecognizable and repulsive. I also believe that imagining their sinister hand behind every tree and under every rock, as some are inclined to do, is not only paranoid, but does a great disservice by distracting attention that could be better given elsewhere. Worse still, it provides ammunition to the opposition that is trying to paint us as raving (right)wingnuts.
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#3145595 - 01/30/13 12:49 PM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: 44fanatic]
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 Originally Posted By: 44fanatic
We both took the same oath...

Educate me on the NDAA and what is unconsitutional about it.


http://www.aclu.org/indefinite-detention...thorization-act
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