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#3145235 - 01/30/13 08:23 AM Accurizing a stock 700?
GOODWIN
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I'd like to do some things to get better accuracy out of my 700 BDL 30-06 with laminate stock. First off I'd like to keep the factory look as much as possible because this was gun was a gift and has sentimental value. And I don't want to break the bank doin it. Just getting the itch to reach out there a little farther 500-600yds. Currently, I'm only getting 1" 1/2 groups at 100yds with factory loads. I'm looking to get some decent optics for it now. Really looking at the Vortex Viper 4-16X.

Other than quality glass and handloads, what else can I do to the gun? Looking for helpful tips or links to good websites. The barrel is not free-floated. Also in my google searches I've found a little info on bedding the action. And can I adjust the factory trigger myself with minimal gunsmithing knowledge? Thanks for any help I can get. I'm gonna make this my off-season project. I know I can get a lot of aftermarket custom things such as a barrel, trigger, stock, etc. but I'm really looking for ways to make the stock gun a better shooter.
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#3145256 - 01/30/13 08:38 AM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: GOODWIN]
Rubberduck270
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The sky's the limit on what all you can do to help accuracy. You can lap the recoil lugs, fire lap the bore, work up hand loads, trigger job or replacement trigger, etc.

I'd start with free floating the barrel and bedding the action. Then work on the trigger, then possible move to lapping the barrel and recoil lugs.

Midway USA has a few videos online that are pretty interesting to watch. He does a good job of explaining pillar and glass bedding. http://www.midwayusa.com/General.mvc/Index/VideoLibrary
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#3145310 - 01/30/13 09:12 AM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: Rubberduck270]
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Hand loading would be my first step. A good trigger helps too.
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#3145331 - 01/30/13 09:28 AM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: GOODWIN]
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 Originally Posted By: GOODWIN
And can I adjust the factory trigger myself with minimal gunsmithing knowledge?

Is your trigger an XMark Pro (with the set screw in the trigger shoe)? If not, please don't mess with it.
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#3145395 - 01/30/13 10:18 AM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: infoman jr.]
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 Originally Posted By: infoman jr.
 Originally Posted By: GOODWIN
And can I adjust the factory trigger myself with minimal gunsmithing knowledge?

Is your trigger an XMark Pro (with the set screw in the trigger shoe)? If not, please don't mess with it.


How do I tell? I don't see a set screw? This gun was purchased in 2003 I believe
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#3145409 - 01/30/13 10:30 AM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: GOODWIN]
Rubberduck270
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It's the older style trigger then. You can find pretty good instructions online on how to adjust them. It's a 3 screw system and can be a little intimidating if you've never adjusted a trigger before. Most gunsmiths will do a 700 trigger job for pretty cheap.

I've adjusted several and once you get the hang of it there's nothing to it. They never will break like a Timney though. A Timney trigger is $120 well spent in my book.
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#3145515 - 01/30/13 11:55 AM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: Rubberduck270]
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Ok I found a great youtube video and was able to adjust it. It is the older model with 3 screws. It's lighter now with a little creep but not too bad. Still playing around with it. It may not be a Timney but I think it's better than stock. After some sore forearms I've managed to free float the barrel as well. I used the deep-well socket and sandpaper technique. I went up on the size of socket a couple of times and finally got it where I want it. Bout to head out to go look at scopes now. Want to stay under $500 and something with at least a 16X. I've got leupold bases and rings right now. Do you think I'd be better off with a one-piece picatinney rail? Just getting my feet wet into long range shooting so thanks for the info. Got to start somewhere I guess.
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#3145532 - 01/30/13 12:08 PM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: GOODWIN]
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I've got a couple triggers that I've done that I've never been able to get all the creep out of. Just part of it.

What size objective are you looking at for your scope? I'm a big fan of the 1 piece DNZ Game Reaper mounts. They run roughly $50.
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#3145576 - 01/30/13 12:36 PM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: Rubberduck270]
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I would go with a 20moa one-piece picatinny rail and a quality set of rings.
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#3145950 - 01/30/13 04:46 PM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: Rubberduck270]
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 Originally Posted By: Rubberduck270
I've got a couple triggers that I've done that I've never been able to get all the creep out of. Just part of it.

What size objective are you looking at for your scope? I'm a big fan of the 1 piece DNZ Game Reaper mounts. They run roughly $50.


I'm looking at a 40mm - 50mm obj. Will I be able to tell much difference in the 40 vs the 50?
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#3145977 - 01/30/13 05:04 PM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: GOODWIN]
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I would start with a new stock, H-S would be a good choice for the money. I would have the barrel re crowned. Then a trigger job to 2.5 lbs., good bases and rings and good glass. Then handloads. That should get you started, then if that don't work. All you lack is a custom barrel.
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#3146203 - 01/30/13 08:01 PM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: GOODWIN]
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Don't forget to put some type of finish back on the wood where you sanded it. It needs to be sealed so it won't draw moisture.
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#3146376 - 01/30/13 09:38 PM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: WGK]
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Practice a ton with a .22 that is similar in size to your 30-06. This has been the least expensive way for me to accuraize my big game rifles \:\) Oh and make sure that barrel is free floated.
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#3146476 - 01/30/13 11:51 PM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: TNRifleman]
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Spending $25 on a Brownells Accuglass kit to glass bed it is a great "Bang for the Buck". I've done several rifles with varying results but they all have improved in accuracy to some degree. I don't think there is any other modification that gains as much for so little cost. Especially since you have already lightened the trigger and free floated the barrel.
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#3146730 - 01/31/13 10:07 AM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: Hunter 257W]
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 Originally Posted By: Hunter 257W
Spending $25 on a Brownells Accuglass kit to glass bed it is a great "Bang for the Buck". I've done several rifles with varying results but they all have improved in accuracy to some degree. I don't think there is any other modification that gains as much for so little cost. Especially since you have already lightened the trigger and free floated the barrel.


thanks for the info. That's what I'll probably do next. Did you just do the action?
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#3146952 - 01/31/13 01:40 PM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: GOODWIN]
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Check the crown of the barrel. Tightened up my groups more than anything.
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#3147080 - 01/31/13 03:49 PM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: Tn_River_Ratt]
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 Originally Posted By: Tn_River_Ratt
Check the crown of the barrel. Tightened up my groups more than anything.


I'll do some research on this thanks. But how do you check the crown?
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#3147120 - 01/31/13 04:28 PM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: GOODWIN]
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 Originally Posted By: GOODWIN
 Originally Posted By: Hunter 257W
Spending $25 on a Brownells Accuglass kit to glass bed it is a great "Bang for the Buck". I've done several rifles with varying results but they all have improved in accuracy to some degree. I don't think there is any other modification that gains as much for so little cost. Especially since you have already lightened the trigger and free floated the barrel.


thanks for the info. That's what I'll probably do next. Did you just do the action?


I always do the action including the rear tang and the chamber portion of the barrel. I've added pillars later to some guns while leaving others with just the epoxy. I don't think the pillars make that much difference in the short term but I'm sure they help in the long term by preventing compression of the stock material under the action screws.

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#3147216 - 01/31/13 06:06 PM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: Hunter 257W]
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Before polishing, from the factory



After polishing



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#3147461 - 01/31/13 09:07 PM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: TiminTN]
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Wow! I do see a big difference. Did you do the polishing yourself? If so explain your technique.
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#3148800 - 02/01/13 10:25 PM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: GOODWIN]
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I did the polishing using bronze mandrels I bought from Brownells. I have a kit that contains 4 grades of compound from a very course 220 up to 1200. I am able to usually start with 400, but this one was so bad, like the worse I ever encountered. There was a happy ending this rifle was chambered in 300 Win Mag and shot an exceptional .479" 4 shot group with handloads using 150 Nosler Accubonds and IMR4350
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#3149293 - 02/02/13 04:55 PM Re: Accurizing a stock 700? [Re: TiminTN]
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Thanks for all the tips guys! I ordered the bedding kit from Brownells so plan to do that next. I ended up going with a Nikon Monarch 4-16x 44mm I ordered from Swfa.com for $300! Which is a great deal if anyone is looking for Nikon optics. I was torn between the Vortex Viper and this but couldn't pass up the deal. Hopefully it will fit the bill. I also got a set of 30-06 dies so we'll see what I can do with it. I'll give an update as soon as I can hit the range.
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