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#3146993 - 01/31/13 02:22 PM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: OHVATN]
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Great post sds1961...I hear what you are saying and offer no disagreement, nor want to.

Ultimately we have to play with the hand that we are dealt. This law happens to be one of those cards we have been dealt. Fortunately it is written to somewhat preserve what remains of our 2nd Amendment rights. The bad thing is that it pertains to natural disasters.

I do believe that an authoritative presence following a significant event can prevent crime and preserve order following that event. This is certainly not what we want in the long run, but to assist in getting life back to normal as quickly as possible. This can almost be compared to placing a police officer on every corner in a city, crimes on the street would be reduced due to the simple presence (this is not what I want, I would rather have people more respectful of each other). In Iraq in early 2004, there was a brigade size element in Tel Afar, the city was quite. Later in 2004, there was a Battalion size element and the city blew up with insurgents. My assumption is that it was due to a reduce presence of military forces.

As to how does this pertain to why the military should conduct exercises with local, state and federal agencies...To work out the kinks of what should and should not be done, how to handle a situation and to establish channels of communictions with counterparts. The military is pretty good at mission execution. Why is it successful, planning, practicing, practicing some more, going back to the planning board and then practice some more and independent thinking. That independent thinking of the military members is what will keep the military from becoming the tool of an overbearing government. There are many members of the military who believe in the Constitution of the United States (whether they are conservative or liberal is irrelevant) and will stand up for they feel is right and will take action against what they feel is wrong.



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#3147037 - 01/31/13 03:07 PM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: 44fanatic]
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Did it occur to anyone that the military might be training with various civilian agencies in the event there is a foreign attack on American soil with tanks and boots on the ground?

I dont trust the government one bit; but that IS a plausible scenario. Be a shame if the red Chinese showed up and there was no plan in place or clear chains of command.
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#3147076 - 01/31/13 03:45 PM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: AndyW]
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I don't subscribe to any of the "9/11 truthers," "birthers," "Oswald didn't act alone," and now the "Sandy Hook false flag," conspiracy theories. Yet, I do wonder what's the reason for all of these training exercises now?

I do think it is more likely to be to prepare for one or more of the occurrences outlined above by 44fanatic, and I'll add one to the list - the death of money (specifically US$). Nonetheless, here's one to chew on. What if a US president took advantage of a militarized DHS (with its ties into the intel community and state/local law enforcement, which itself has been militarized) and a national emergency to assert dictatorial control? Certainly the start of a good screenplay, but could it happen ......?
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#3147083 - 01/31/13 03:51 PM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: OHVATN]
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sds1961, did you ever serve in the military?
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#3147117 - 01/31/13 04:27 PM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: nodog]
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There are really only 2 explinations as to why the US military is training in the civillain world.

1) The buildings are available and they are just using them as a space. Training to clear the same MOUT site over and over doesn't help evetuanlly.

2) They are training to put down civli unrest scenerios.

I pray for #1, but think its most likely them thinking they will be used on a limited scale for #2.
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#3147124 - 01/31/13 04:31 PM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: Redfred16]
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Our biggest threat facing our country right now is our debt. You want to see a civil war? Hyper-inflate our currency and try to explain to Travon why a loaf of bread is 500 dollars and his welfare check doesn't buy 1 loaf.
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#3147127 - 01/31/13 04:32 PM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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...and IMO our military should be training for events like this because something wicked this way comes. I have been saying it for 5 years now. John Williams says we will hyper-inflate no later than 2014.
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#3147128 - 01/31/13 04:32 PM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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#3147188 - 01/31/13 05:34 PM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: 44fanatic]
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 Originally Posted By: 44fanatic
sds1961, did you ever serve in the military?


No I did not.
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#3147207 - 01/31/13 05:56 PM Re: Military Drills Resume Preparation for MAT.LAW [Re: OHVATN]
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 Originally Posted By: sds1961
 Originally Posted By: 44fanatic
sds1961, did you ever serve in the military?


No I did not.


Dang, the point I wanted to make is that you would have found like minded individuals serving next to you...and that is why the military cannot be used as a tool to achieve a personal agenda.
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