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#3143932 - 01/29/13 01:34 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Crappie Luck]
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1900 non-pedophile homosexuals who molested children

"A Seattle attorney who released the names of nearly 1,900 men who were expelled from the Boy Scouts of America after complaints of child sex abuse says he did so in the interest of public safety and education."

Nope, no correlation here, move along...

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/...lic-safety?lite
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#3143936 - 01/29/13 01:36 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Dbllunger]
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 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger
 Originally Posted By: MUP
Murderers also live among us, and even tho a murder hasn't murdered any children yet, doesn't mean I'm willing to learn to live among them, or worse yet, let my children be anywhere near them. Now this is just my opinion of course, narrow as it may be. And ignorant I imagine to some.


Murder is a crime....being gay is not I'm pretty sure.

If I had to pick between the two, I would rather have lunch with Liberace than Ted Bundy (heterosexual)


I would choose neither...

Homosexuality is a sickness. WHO would willfully send their children (young people who are very impressionable) out on endeavors with such a sickness and have a good feeling about it? Really, who?

SO you guys are fine with the scoutmaster and his BF lip-locking on their meet/greet at McDonalds while the scouts are present?

Nope, its a sin, its a sickness and it's one no child deserves to be put in the path of, IMO
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#3143967 - 01/29/13 01:56 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Kimber45]
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 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger

If I had to pick between the two, I would rather have lunch with Liberace than Ted Bundy (heterosexual)


Maybe lunch with Jeffery Dahmer (Homosexual).

What are you proving by choosing a famous musician who is gay and a mass murderer who is not?

One plays the piano, the other prefers going "Clubbing" with college girls.

What's the point?
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#3143984 - 01/29/13 02:07 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger
How do so many people make the incredibly large leap from Homosexuality to Pedophiles. This boggles my mind.

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By definition, this is ignorant thinking. That is like saying all heterosexual males want to molest young girls. Simply not true.

The boy scouts need to worry more about identifying pedophiles in its organization and getting rid of those people than worrying about people that want to positively affect young lives and just happen to be gay.

And also, I am a devout practicing heterosexual. I don't support a gay lifestyle but am aware enough to realize that sexual orientation doesn't make you a good or bad person.


Ignorant? Your case that pedophile and homosexuality are mutually exclusive is so lacking in substance that you have to come out with name calling to defile me rather than prove your point?

I know, It's all those documented cases of young boys being molested by heterosexuals. In fact, homosexuals in the BSA is a non issue because they are not interested in them boys.

Here's some ignorance for you

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS02E3

http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13722/


I was not saying that homosexuality and pedophilia are mutually exclusive. I was just pointing out that one does not always go with the other like so many on here seem to assume.

Being called a jerk or some other similar name is name calling. Being ignorant is not. It is simply a term to describe someone that is not informed on a particular subject.

I am not advocating what the Boy Scouts do or not do. I have no dog in the fight with that. I just think it strange that so many people equate gay and child molester.
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#3143991 - 01/29/13 02:10 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger

If I had to pick between the two, I would rather have lunch with Liberace than Ted Bundy (heterosexual)


Maybe lunch with Jeffery Dahmer (Homosexual).

What are you proving by choosing a famous musician who is gay and a mass murderer who is not?

One plays the piano, the other prefers going "Clubbing" with college girls.

What's the point?


The point was simple, murder is a crime and being gay isn't. MUP was treating them as the same.
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#3143999 - 01/29/13 02:16 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Dbllunger]
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As I pointed out in another post.

100% of the men who molest boys are homosexual. I'm ignorant as to how that connection cannot be recognized.

People are gay for different reasons.
Some just simply like people of the same sex. Some are "into it" for the attention and cultural celebration.

Some are sexual addicts, bath house, anonymous sex and have severe mental defects.

If we are going to HONESTLY consider allowing homosexuals in the BSA we cannot tolerate stereotypes. Not the negative kind that paints them all as pedophiles or high heal wearing prisses.

And certainly not the Positive stereotype that we are indoctrinated with that they are all just everyday folks who happen to be attracted to adult men.

The reality is a large % of them have serious mental issues and an extremely high rate of medication, depression and suicide.

Can you at least entertain the possibility that allowing them access to our children might pose some problems?
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#3144006 - 01/29/13 02:21 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Dbllunger]
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 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger
How do so many people make the incredibly large leap from Homosexuality to Pedophiles. This boggles my mind.

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By definition, this is ignorant thinking. That is like saying all heterosexual males want to molest young girls. Simply not true.

The boy scouts need to worry more about identifying pedophiles in its organization and getting rid of those people than worrying about people that want to positively affect young lives and just happen to be gay.

And also, I am a devout practicing heterosexual. I don't support a gay lifestyle but am aware enough to realize that sexual orientation doesn't make you a good or bad person.


It's not being ignorant it's being I know my (uncle who is gay) and I don't want my kids around that influence. I never said that every gay guy would assault a young boy but I don't want that influence around my kids.
I don't agree with the lifestyle and don't want any communication with that nor my kids being around it at all.
I do agree check for Pedophiles but keep gays out of the Boy Scouts as well.
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#3144012 - 01/29/13 02:26 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Crappie Luck]
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On my honor, I will do my best, to do my duty to God and my Country. To obey the Scout law, To help other people at all times. To keep myself physical strong, Mentally awake, and morally straight.

How can a gay person take that oath, knowing that they are going against God. The Boy Scouts have an oath and when you are gay you cannot live by that oath. Simple as that.
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#3144013 - 01/29/13 02:26 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Dbllunger]
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 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger
 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger

If I had to pick between the two, I would rather have lunch with Liberace than Ted Bundy (heterosexual)


Maybe lunch with Jeffery Dahmer (Homosexual).

What are you proving by choosing a famous musician who is gay and a mass murderer who is not?

One plays the piano, the other prefers going "Clubbing" with college girls.

What's the point?


The point was simple, murder is a crime and being gay isn't. MUP was treating them as the same.


Even if they weren't the same, I don't care, I will not let that evil influence around my children, either one, whether illegal, wrong or whatever. And yes, evil/wrong is the same in my eyes when it comes to the safety and well-being of my kids.
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#3144016 - 01/29/13 02:28 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Kimber45]
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I would not trust my child to go on overnight stays with somebody that is gay. For those that might argue, notice I said child, either sex wouldn't matter. But I'm not trusting of many people today.
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