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#3143864 - 01/29/13 12:56 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: TAFKAP]
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Murderers also live among us, and even tho a murder hasn't murdered any children yet, doesn't mean I'm willing to learn to live among them, or worse yet, let my children be anywhere near them. Now this is just my opinion of course, narrow as it may be. And ignorant I imagine to some.

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#3143873 - 01/29/13 01:03 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
The BSA is also a Private, Christian organization that is responsible for the safety of it's members.



I'm an Eagle sount, earned it 20 years ago. That time, sex abuse of scouts by leaders was still RAMPANT. I know this because there was 2 big scandals in my town. One, a freaky old man previously convicted of raping boys in another state. The other, former town mayor and upstanding citizen. Married with 4 kids of his own. He was never outed until years after he left scouting, having molested dozens of boys over many years. When several of the men he had abused when they were boys reported it, local law enforcement turned them away. They had to go to the state police.

Out of the closet gays are not the threat. The threat to kids is from perverted individuals who appear normal. Scouting new about problems for decades and covered it up. Hopefully the new policies of recent years will prevent that kind of stuff happening again.

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#3143875 - 01/29/13 01:05 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: MUP]
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I am surprised this point hasn't been brought up. This issue is more about attaction then anything else. We do not allow male BSA leaders to sleep in the same tents with girls do we? Then why would allow a lesbian to sleep in the same tent with girls or be alone with girls when they are attracted to girls. It is about the temptation and never under any circumstance should we put kids in that situation.
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#3143887 - 01/29/13 01:13 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: MUP]
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
Murderers also live among us, and even tho a murder hasn't murdered any children yet, doesn't mean I'm willing to learn to live among them, or worse yet, let my children be anywhere near them. Now this is just my opinion of course, narrow as it may be. And ignorant I imagine to some.


Murder is a crime....being gay is not I'm pretty sure.

If I had to pick between the two, I would rather have lunch with Liberace than Ted Bundy (heterosexual)
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#3143892 - 01/29/13 01:17 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Dbllunger]
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 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger
How do so many people make the incredibly large leap from Homosexuality to Pedophiles. This boggles my mind.

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By definition, this is ignorant thinking. That is like saying all heterosexual males want to molest young girls. Simply not true.

The boy scouts need to worry more about identifying pedophiles in its organization and getting rid of those people than worrying about people that want to positively affect young lives and just happen to be gay.

And also, I am a devout practicing heterosexual. I don't support a gay lifestyle but am aware enough to realize that sexual orientation doesn't make you a good or bad person.


Ignorant? Your case that pedophile and homosexuality are mutually exclusive is so lacking in substance that you have to come out with name calling to defile me rather than prove your point?

I know, It's all those documented cases of young boys being molested by heterosexuals. In fact, homosexuals in the BSA is a non issue because they are not interested in them boys.

Here's some ignorance for you

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS02E3

http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13722/
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#3143897 - 01/29/13 01:19 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Dbllunger]
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 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger
 Originally Posted By: MUP
Murderers also live among us, and even tho a murder hasn't murdered any children yet, doesn't mean I'm willing to learn to live among them, or worse yet, let my children be anywhere near them. Now this is just my opinion of course, narrow as it may be. And ignorant I imagine to some.


Murder is a crime....being gay is not I'm pretty sure.

If I had to pick between the two, I would rather have lunch with Liberace than Ted Bundy (heterosexual)


Yea, but would you make that discernment with your children? I certainly would not. ;\) Illegal, or just plain wrong, still not gonna be around my kids.
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#3143908 - 01/29/13 01:26 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Jer]
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 Originally Posted By: Jer
I am surprised this point hasn't been brought up. This issue is more about attaction then anything else. We do not allow male BSA leaders to sleep in the same tents with girls do we? Then why would allow a lesbian to sleep in the same tent with girls or be alone with girls when they are attracted to girls. It is about the temptation and never under any circumstance should we put kids in that situation.


No leader is allowed to sleep in a tent with any kid they're not the parent of.

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#3143910 - 01/29/13 01:27 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger
How do so many people make the incredibly large leap from Homosexuality to Pedophiles. This boggles my mind.

ig·no·rant
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1.Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.
2.Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular:



By definition, this is ignorant thinking. That is like saying all heterosexual males want to molest young girls. Simply not true.

The boy scouts need to worry more about identifying pedophiles in its organization and getting rid of those people than worrying about people that want to positively affect young lives and just happen to be gay.

And also, I am a devout practicing heterosexual. I don't support a gay lifestyle but am aware enough to realize that sexual orientation doesn't make you a good or bad person.


Ignorant? Your case that pedophile and homosexuality are mutually exclusive is so lacking in substance that you have to come out with name calling to defile me rather than prove your point?

I know, It's all those documented cases of young boys being molested by heterosexuals. In fact, homosexuals in the BSA is a non issue because they are not interested in them boys.

Here's some ignorance for you

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS02E3

http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13722/


I think if you are molesting kids you lose your heterosexual card and you have been falsely claiming to be heterosexual.
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#3143911 - 01/29/13 01:28 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: pass-thru]
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I'm not saying 100% of homosexuals are pedophiles.

But I AM saying that 100% of the men who molest young boys are homosexuals.

THAT is the point of keeping them out of the BSA.
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#3143927 - 01/29/13 01:32 PM Re: Boy Scouts discussing end to ban on gay members [Re: Crappie Luck]
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more ignorance

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/...in-midwest?lite
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