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#3143500 - 01/29/13 08:31 AM Help me looking for used truck
Reemus Buckshot
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My 07 Ford explorer is done for. Tranny started getting real bad this winter. I bought it with 40k miles on it and it started slightly slipping around 50k. Pulled a 1500lb boat a few times this summer And the transmission started slipping real bad around November. I refuse to believe pullijg the boat less than a dozen times caused this. The explorer always slammed into reverse and changed gears really hard.

I was told I had to have a new tranny yesterday. $3500. My wife just got a new car and we have a baby due in two months. Not good timing, but I'm getting rid of this garbage. Too many issues with it, not to
Mention I just replaced radiator on it. I believe explorers are known for tranny issues. It would be that big f a deal if it hasn't been slipping since shortly after I bought it.

Now, I am looking to spend 17k or less when I trade this explorer in. I need something to pull my 84 bay liner. I have been looking at Tacoma and tundras. Not sure if I trust domestics anymore. Last vehicle was a z71 and it did fine for 5 years. Any thoughts? Advice?

When shopping used cars...how much does mileage matter to you? My wife has this idea in her head that we shouldn't buy over 100k miles in a vehicle.

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#3143521 - 01/29/13 08:42 AM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: Reemus Buckshot]
thetoolman
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For me its all in my budget. If I am going to spend 17K by no means am I buying a vehicle with over 100K miles. Most midside trucks have a towing capacity of 4500-6500lbs so a Tacoma or newer model Frontier would work great for a 1500lb boat. I have a Titan and love it, but gas mileage is not great at all. I don't think you could go wrong with a Toyota or Nissan. One of the happiest days of car buying I ever had was when I got rid of my Colorado.
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#3143542 - 01/29/13 08:56 AM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: thetoolman]
CountryBoy053
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17k for a used vehicle, you better be well under 100k miles. I stay under 100k miles on gas vechiles anyways. But now I deal more with diesels, and mileage is less of an issue with them. deals are to be made, just talk with the dealer and try to knock them down. it can happen. My f250 7.3 powerstroke was listed at 20,900. I got it for 13,000. And very low miles for diesel, less then 120k when I bought it.
Had a work truck that had the 7.3 powerstroke that had 1.4 million miles. So hopefully she lasts me that long.
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#3143550 - 01/29/13 09:04 AM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: CountryBoy053]
Kingston
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Mileage-wise it all depends on how it has been used IMO. My current truck[GMC-93} had 106K when I bought. It had been driven to work basically by an insurance agent for 7-8 years. It has 200k on it now and the biggest expense I have had is replacing the radiator in 10+ years.
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#3143593 - 01/29/13 09:39 AM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: Kingston]
Reemus Buckshot
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Ahh this is a bit stressful because I don't know where to start now. I made the mistake of buying piece of junk explorer. I just have to get something decently reliable.

So determine how it has been driven? What is good news/bad news as far as how it has been driven in the past?

I found a couple private sellers with vehicles I like. I want to trade my explorer in and not fool with selling. Is there a way I can take the trade in value from dealership and finance the difference if I bought from private seller? How would that work?

Also, one of the vehicle I like needs new tires and has a minor rip in drivers seat. Is it common practice to ask seller to fix these and purchase the car for slightly more? That way I could keep from financing new tires separately.

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#3143655 - 01/29/13 10:32 AM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: Reemus Buckshot]
Kingston
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Whom was the previous owner, what kind of job did he/she have? Was the truck a work truck or a commute to work truck?
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#3143683 - 01/29/13 10:47 AM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: Kingston]
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I have an F450 listed on Craigslist with a link here in the classified adds. It will pull anything you have and the house too. Can get you in it for less than asking price on Craigslist. May be a little more truck than you are looking for but I saw a chance for a shameless plug. I see you ain't to close to Franklin either. Thanks, and good luck.
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#3143692 - 01/29/13 10:51 AM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: Poor redneck]
jameseboy
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You can sell it to CarMax...give you about what you would get in trade.
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#3143703 - 01/29/13 10:58 AM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: jameseboy]
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 Originally Posted By: jameseboy
You can sell it to CarMax...give you about what you would get in trade.


This ^^ is a good idea to sell the way you were wanting to, you wont have to mess with selling and will get what a dealer would give you for trade in
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#3143744 - 01/29/13 11:24 AM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: in the dog house!]
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I just recently traded in a 2007 F150 supercrew 4x4 with 49k miles and was given 17,500 on paper if that gives you an idea.
I bought it new and was in EXCELLENT shape with a few add ons like bed cover, BFG AT tires (21k miles), tinted window, husky liners etc etc.

Good luck with your search !

Edit: It still had 20k miles left on extended warranty also !


Edited by X-Tennessean (01/29/13 11:26 AM)

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#3143857 - 01/29/13 12:49 PM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: X-Tennessean]
Reemus Buckshot
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Any other tips on what to check on a vehicle before buying used?

I would also like to hear anybody's tactics to talking a price down with salesman...

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#3143880 - 01/29/13 01:10 PM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: Reemus Buckshot]
shelbydeer
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I hate dealing with any car salesman. If you are buying a used car from a private party the condition of the interior can tell you a lot about how it's been driven. I have owned several z71 in my past and current and had no issues with any of them and all had over 200k miles Good luck
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#3143995 - 01/29/13 02:14 PM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: shelbydeer]
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Is the transmission the only thing wrong with your vehicle? Not to shoot holes in your logic, but it seems like you are basically saying you are willing to lose thousands of dollars in trading in a vehicle and paying taxes/registration/mark-up on a second one just to avoid the lesser cost of replacing the transmission on your current one. If I were in your shoes, I would save all that money and patch your existing problem and move on. Just selling to Car Max, for example, means they are probably taking at least $2k in profits out of your pocket (if they can sell your vehicle on-site because it's new enough, it might be better, but if it doesn't meet their standards, it's usually sold/auctioned to another lot). If it has tons of problems, I understand that you gotta do what you gotta do. I've just been in your exact shoes before and hate to see someone get in a bunch of debt while they are trying to start a family. Even if you have to put $3k on the credit card to pay for the transmission, that's still a lot smaller note than a vehicle upgrade.

As far as car buying, i would use Autotrader.com as a good way of doing a widespread price check on several models. There are some fairly good search options that you can use to narrow selection.

A thorough vehicle inspection and driving test will tell you a lot. As Shelbydeer points out, the "little" things like scratches/dents/stains/smells/pet hair/smoke give you an indication of how well the rest of the vehicle was maintained. Be sure to get under the vehicle and check for oil leaks (bring a flash light!), and look at the oil dipstick to see whether the existing oil is clean or not (easy check for how diligent they are with maintenance).

Check for maintenance records that indicate whether things were performed on time. For a given year/make/model vehicle you might do an internet search for "recommended maintenance" and find out what sorts of things should have already been done on that vehicle at its mileage, then check with the owner for records.

I would spent the 5 or 6 bucks per month on a Consumerreports.org internet subscription and look at the reliability ratings for different kinds of vehicles. Look past the overall scores at the individual categories, and make sure that the expensive stuff (drive train, engine, transmission, electrical) are not points of concerns for that particular vehicle year. It will indicate when a "redesign" year was, and often times the reliability will be different for models made after that.

Of course, you must also realize that many times you will pay $5-10,000 more for a vehicle that is highly rated for reliability, just to save $2-3k in repair costs over a 5-10 year ownership span. Case in point - I drive a cheap Chevy Cavalier with mediocre reliability ratings in Consumer Reports. But since the vehice costs so little compared to some of its peers on the market at the time, I've probably saved myself $5-10k over the life of the vehicle so far.

Get a hard number down that you aren't going to go above on buying the vehicle. Factor in the taxes and tags for all of your out of pocket expenses so that you don't over-inflate your ability to buy. Then DON'T LET THEM TALK YOU OVER YOUR LIMIT! Be willing to walk away from a deal. Getting pre-approved for a loan (if you are financing) from your bank isn't a bad idea just to have a bargaining chip when they try to sell you a crappy financing deal.

If you want a decent deal from a used car lot, CityAuto on Covington Pike is a pretty good place. They push a lot of volume. The prices CAN be beat, but I don't hear about any rip-offs coming from them either. They have a warranty program on some vehicles that helps boost buyer confidence. They do a pretty good job of cataloging their inventory, and they get lots of new vehicles in all the time. Check their website to see what they have.
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#3144033 - 01/29/13 02:37 PM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: Crosshairy]
JeepKuntry
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They don't call them an Exploder for nothing. If I were looking used to pull a camper, I'd go full size. You can find decent prices on the Tundra's that aren't true crew cabs. But Tundra's get horrible gas mileage. My 07 Silverado was the biggest POS I've ever owned, never again will own a Chevy.
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#3144941 - 01/29/13 11:21 PM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: JeepKuntry]
Reemus Buckshot
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Here's my biggest dilemma...we really can't afford another car note. I have saved about $1000. The explorer started kicking real hard into reverse and shifting gears hard and hesitating when shifting around 50k. I just drove it after having it inspected and the tranny fluid changed. Other than shifting gears hard, I have replaced a cracked radiator and tire sensors.

I am worried about replacing the tranny with a rebuilt one and it not entirely resolving my problem and the vehicle just turning into a money put. Anyone had good experience with getting a tranny replaced with a used one?

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#3144945 - 01/29/13 11:23 PM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: Reemus Buckshot]
Reemus Buckshot
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BTW, I don't mean to keep bugging y'all by begging for advice. There are some knowledgeable, helpful people here...that's all. I appreciate all of the input
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#3144992 - 01/30/13 12:26 AM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: Reemus Buckshot]
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Having been in your shoes many years ago, sell that freakin' boat and get your current bucket o' bolts fixed, not repaired. Babies, especially the first one, are dang expensive. By the time your child is old enough for ALL of you to enjoy the lake, those car notes saved will buy you a nice, new boat. Trust me, Murphy doesn't just ride along on your shoulder. He likes to jump up and down when you need it the least.
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#3145146 - 01/30/13 06:45 AM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: Hangnail]
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THere ain't no way in HAY-DEES I'm going to spend 17k on something that has 100k miles on it, weather it a hummer or space shuttle.

I'm like others on here budget don't allow it, but mainly I just cant make myself understand that kinda money for something with 100k miles. JMO
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#3146356 - 01/30/13 09:28 PM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: Viper (tp)]
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How much is a new factory trans with a factory warranty?? That way if a problem occurs ANY dealer can deal with it. I'm not a fan of rebuild trans. Hell I work on GM products and have had BAD ones right out of the reman box, but the factory won't leave ya walkin!
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#3146411 - 01/30/13 10:00 PM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: 2shot]
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idk how much but I know quite a few people that have a titan and I have never herd of any of them having trouble with the trans. I haul a trailer every day during mowing season no problems and ive hauled quite a bit of weight with it. no problems. but I don't reckon that's a bad idea to have one never know when it could fail.
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#3146442 - 01/30/13 10:45 PM Re: Help me looking for used truck [Re: deerhunter10]
eightpointer
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I saw a good looking Pathfinder in the classified page here. And a nice 4Runner too.
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