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#3142928 - 01/28/13 07:06 PM Red doe scope for turkey gun?
DPH
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What is everyones opinion on red dot scopes to help my 8 yr old get first turkey and what kind do you prefer?
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#3142939 - 01/28/13 07:13 PM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: DPH]
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wrong forum but I don't really have a preference, but you can get a decent scope for the same price as a red dot. you don't need anything real flashy.
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#3142944 - 01/28/13 07:15 PM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: deerhunter10]
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I shoot a Simmons Pro Diamond scope 3x5 just put the turkeys head in the diamond and ol red is dead. Had a red dot did not like it.
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#3142949 - 01/28/13 07:17 PM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: turkeyhunter64]
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I think it's a darn good idea. One of the biggest mistakes kids (or adults) will make is taking their head off the stock and shooting high. A red dot will bandaid that tendency. I'd be wary of the cheaper ones. I'd worry about POI shift under magnum recoil. The Trijicon RMR's are nice!
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#3142951 - 01/28/13 07:18 PM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: deerhunter10]
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I would not advise one for anyone.. I put one on my daughters 223 when she was about 8-9.. sun came up.. deer came out about 30 yards.. I cocked it and kept waiting on her to shoot.. she never did.. finally it left and she said she could not see the red dot.. well i took it and sure 'nuff.. the sun was behind us and the dot was completely invisible.. not matter what setting you put it on.. i took it off..put on a fixed 4 power and she killed one that evening..
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#3142987 - 01/28/13 07:46 PM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: pressfit]
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Want have a turkey gun without one on it.
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#3142999 - 01/28/13 07:54 PM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
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I don't want a scope due to recoil maybe hitting him when he shoots so figured red dot or something similar would work better.
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#3143012 - 01/28/13 08:04 PM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: DPH]
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I have a Pentax scope with circle and crosshair reticle on it that I love on my turkey gun. I got it at the advice of Harold Knight. He told me one spring he had three clients in a row miss their turkey due to lifting their heads. He put a scope on his "client gun", and has not had a turkey missed since.

There is enough eye relief that scope eye is a non-issue.
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#3143015 - 01/28/13 08:07 PM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: DPH]
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I use a truglo red-dot gobbler stopper It has a red circle around the red dot or green circle around green dot comes with both,easy to line up. Also if don't like red dot I put a Bushnell Banner 1.75x4x32 with circle x reticle on girlfriends shotgun she likes it.
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#3143026 - 01/28/13 08:11 PM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: lightfoot]
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I cheap way to keep your head one the stock. I shoot a dead ringer awesome sight and it keeps you to keep your head down and you don't have to worry about your eye getting scoped
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#3148952 - 02/02/13 08:17 AM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: DPH]
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 Originally Posted By: DPH
What is everyones opinion on red dot scopes to help my 8 yr old get first turkey and what kind do you prefer?

Have been successful with red dots, no magnification. Two-eye acquisition is great training tool as well. Never take your eyes off the “prize”. Considering most are short range shots the way to go. You need not go “high” dollar, although be sure it has good range of brightness settings.
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#3149081 - 02/02/13 10:50 AM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: Frank G]
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Eotech on mine. Love it!
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#3149142 - 02/02/13 12:49 PM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: muddyboots]
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Nikon red dot on mine. It has adjustable dot size and light intensity. I really like it.
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#3149189 - 02/02/13 02:13 PM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: Vermin93]
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...Or, you can just add a rear sight to your shotgun.
It seems to me that scopes for turkey guns are solutions in search of problems.
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#3149631 - 02/02/13 09:09 PM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: Poser]
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My gun already has a factory rear sight but I'm trying to make it as simple as possible. He can shoot a scope but has trouble keeping his head down on the stock of the shot gun. My gun has the knox stock so it can be adjusted but dont want the scope to get the best of him if he makes a mistake. Gonna borrow a truglo red dot from a friend and see how he likes it before I buy one. Thanks for all the help.
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#3149712 - 02/02/13 10:46 PM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: DPH]
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 Originally Posted By: DPH
My gun already has a factory rear sight but I'm trying to make it as simple as possible. He can shoot a scope but has trouble keeping his head down on the stock of the shot gun. My gun has the knox stock so it can be adjusted but dont want the scope to get the best of him if he makes a mistake. Gonna borrow a truglo red dot from a friend and see how he likes it before I buy one. Thanks for all the help.


Just my opinion, but I do not believe that an optic is a solution to any shooting form problem, regardless of the shooter.
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#3149786 - 02/03/13 06:44 AM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: deerhunter10]
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We use the Burris FastFire's on our turkey guns. They are small, waterproof, tough, and super easy to use. My daughter loves the sight. There is no parallax with them, so put the dot on the turkey and shoot. Doesn't matter where your head is.
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#3149887 - 02/03/13 09:04 AM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: whiskey]
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On a foggy spring morning in low light conditions it is nice to have a red dot. Works great in the evening as well. Similar concept as an illuminated rifle scope in terms of easier target acquisition in low light situations. It's certainly not a must-have, but definitely a nice-to-have.
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#3149890 - 02/03/13 09:13 AM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: whiskey]
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 Originally Posted By: whiskey
We use the Burris FastFire's on our turkey guns. They are small, waterproof, tough, and super easy to use. My daughter loves the sight. There is no parallax with them, so put the dot on the turkey and shoot. Doesn't matter where your head is.

100% agree, both eyes open when the red dot is on target…. Send it!
Same procedure with my hand cannons.
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#3149905 - 02/03/13 09:33 AM Re: Red doe scope for turkey gun? [Re: Frank G]
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It happens, although extremely rare.
I was fortunate enough to acquire a Charles Daly “Ducks Unlimited” Camo signature addition 12 ga auto. Change the choke out and great turkey gun as well. The biggest gobbler I have ever seen came strutting up. Had him in sights, squeezed the trigger and “CLICK” ……. Oh %@#$…. I didn’t chamber a round! How am I going to cycle this without him hearing/seeing. You guessed it, off he went. There was a round in the chamber! 100s of rounds at ducks and never had a misfire with (using hevi shot). Should that happen again this year I only need to squeeze the trigger again, this year I’m lugging an OU on my hunts.
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