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#3135802 - 01/23/13 10:09 AM Re: New Deer Tick disease [Re: BSK]
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Odd question, but did you try beef from different sources? Supermarket versus grass fed from a local farm? Did the source not matter? Just curious.
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#3135836 - 01/23/13 10:29 AM Re: New Deer Tick disease [Re: WMAn]
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 Originally Posted By: WMAn
Odd question, but did you try beef from different sources? Supermarket versus grass fed from a local farm? Did the source not matter? Just curious.


and, to clarify, it was just beef? Pork etc had no effect?
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#3135904 - 01/23/13 11:17 AM Re: New Deer Tick disease [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
and, to clarify, it was just beef? Pork etc had no effect?
Was wondering the same thing. What about venison?
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#3136368 - 01/23/13 05:48 PM Re: New Deer Tick disease [Re: WMAn]
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 Originally Posted By: WMAn
Odd question, but did you try beef from different sources? Supermarket versus grass fed from a local farm? Did the source not matter? Just curious.


Yup, tried everything, including free-range. For years we were convinced the problem was being caused by preservatives sprayed on the carcasses at the slaughter house--that is until Mammalian Meat Allergy was discovered.
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#3136376 - 01/23/13 05:54 PM Re: New Deer Tick disease [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
 Originally Posted By: WMAn
Odd question, but did you try beef from different sources? Supermarket versus grass fed from a local farm? Did the source not matter? Just curious.


and, to clarify, it was just beef? Pork etc had no effect?


Each person will show a slightly different list of meats that bother them. For me it was beef and some forms of cured pork, such as cured ham, brauts, and some sausage. But I could eat porkchops and bar-b-que. Venison was also OK.

For one of my sisters it is purely beef. For the other, every type of red meat is causing her problems, including venison.

But the defining aspect of Mammalian Meat Allergy isn't what meat the person displays allergic reactions to. It is the 4-6 hour delayed reaction, which as far as I know, is fairly unprecedented in food allergies. Most other food allergies will begin to display symptoms within 30-60 minutes of consumption.

For me, the delay was exactly 6 hours. You could set your wath by it the reaction time was so precise.

So far, there are only about 1,200 diagnosed cases of Mammalian Meat Allergy, but much of that is due to a lack of awareness by people who might have it. Of those diagnosed, I'm one of the earliest cases known (my symptoms appeared in 1991).
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#3139173 - 01/25/13 03:26 PM Re: New Deer Tick disease [Re: BSK]
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I've also dealt with this for several years. My worst reactions usually occur if I eat the cheaper high fat content beef (I.e. the cheap frozen hamburger patties are the worst). I am able to eat leaner cuts of beef and venison has never bothered me. It took a while for me to narrow it down to beef. As BSK stated I always assumed it was preservatives. I've had some serious reactions in the past, including trouble breathing, a serious colon pain, burning/itchy hives. Benedryl (or any other antihistamine) has been the only thing that can relieve the symptoms.
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#3139761 - 01/25/13 10:04 PM Re: New Deer Tick disease [Re: Oak]
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 Originally Posted By: Oak
I've also dealt with this for several years. My worst reactions usually occur if I eat the cheaper high fat content beef (I.e. the cheap frozen hamburger patties are the worst).


Yup. I first noticed the reactions, and the reactions were always worst, to high-fat fast-food hamburgers.


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I've had some serious reactions in the past, including trouble breathing, a serious colon pain, burning/itchy hives.


On the rare occassion I have a reaction these days, it is always the intense intestinal pain. It comes in waves, and is shockingly brutal. One of my sisters also experiences this symptom.
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#3139768 - 01/25/13 10:08 PM Re: New Deer Tick disease [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Poser
 Originally Posted By: WMAn
Odd question, but did you try beef from different sources? Supermarket versus grass fed from a local farm? Did the source not matter? Just curious.


and, to clarify, it was just beef? Pork etc had no effect?


Each person will show a slightly different list of meats that bother them. For me it was beef and some forms of cured pork, such as cured ham, brauts, and some sausage. But I could eat porkchops and bar-b-que. Venison was also OK.

For one of my sisters it is purely beef. For the other, every type of red meat is causing her problems, including venison.

But the defining aspect of Mammalian Meat Allergy isn't what meat the person displays allergic reactions to. It is the 4-6 hour delayed reaction, which as far as I know, is fairly unprecedented in food allergies. Most other food allergies will begin to display symptoms within 30-60 minutes of consumption.

For me, the delay was exactly 6 hours. You could set your wath by it the reaction time was so precise.

So far, there are only about 1,200 diagnosed cases of Mammalian Meat Allergy, but much of that is due to a lack of awareness by people who might have it. Of those diagnosed, I'm one of the earliest cases known (my symptoms appeared in 1991).


My mother has it several years now, and she can't eat any read meat whatsoever. I had never heard of it before and neither and she. She was diagnosed by an allergist through bloodwork.

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#3139775 - 01/25/13 10:12 PM Re: New Deer Tick disease [Re: pass-thru]
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 Originally Posted By: pass-thru
My mother has it several years now, and she can't eat any read meat whatsoever. I had never heard of it before and neither and she. She was diagnosed by an allergist through bloodwork.


They look for the alfagal proteins.

It's beginning to appear that there are other ways to develop this allergy other than a tick bite (as the allergy is starting to show up in a few people outside of the normal range), but tick bites (from a particular species of tick) appear to be the primary cause.
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#3139778 - 01/25/13 10:15 PM Re: New Deer Tick disease [Re: BSK]
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Here's a link for anyone that wants to know more about Mammalian Meat Allergy or the tests used to diagnose it.

http://allergytomeat.wordpress.com/frequently-asked-questions/
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