#3138674 - 01/25/13 10:15 AM
Re: Hevi-Shot
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Also, I love the hevi-shot, but hate the brand Hevi-Shot and there are two big reasons. From my experience with the many many Hevi-shot brand Hevi-shot I have bought the actual shotshells are terrible. The ends come apart and the bb's and other things fall out the end. Also, the rim part of the brass gets bummed up really easy and my gun, Remington 11-87, would get to where it couldn't grab them to eject them. Both of these problems would start to happen midway through season after loading and unloading so much. I guess if you never unloaded your gun or killed one everyday it wouldn't do that.
I use the Winchester extended range now, same price as Hevi-shot brand, and I think it is the same kind of metal. The shells on them do not tear up. They pattern as good as Hevi-Shot does too, out of my gun/choke that is.
Maybe Hevi-shot shotshells have changed, and if one of you tells me they don't tear up anymore I may go get me some. But I quite using them, and I have gone through many of them before I finally got tired of fooling with them. 1. i have not had any issues with quality, when i shot the straight #7 i tried to always get the same lot#s as there seemed to be good and bad, HOWEVER with the magblends i have not found an issue from lot to lot. 2. the Xtended range is not the same as the Hevi shot...Xtended range is 10% heavier then lead and Hevi is %20 if i remember correctly I shot the Xtended range for a while but switched as the Hevi just shot way better in my guns. Xtended range and hevi shot are both 12 g/cc making them the same.
ok good to know, I for some reason thought Xtended said they were 10% heavier and Hevi was %15-%20 and Heavyweight was like %30. those could all be WAY off though
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#3138697 - 01/25/13 10:24 AM
Re: Hevi-Shot
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....if handloaders had not measured the density. Did you measure the density? If so, how? If not, who did? If not you, provide the source as I would like to read about their experiment and results. Thanks.
I haven't measured it personally, im going to p.m. you a link
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#3138709 - 01/25/13 10:27 AM
Re: Hevi-Shot
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10-4, thanks Rockhound.
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#3138724 - 01/25/13 10:36 AM
Re: Hevi-Shot
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Im not a "shellologist" like yall, yall got me to thinking alot though.
Are Hevi-shot and Winchester Xtended the same or not?
I have seen Hevi-shot and Hevi-13, what are the differences in those? I have heard of Nitros, but I will not pay that much when I know Hevi or just lead can kill turkeys too.
So, which is the best shell besides Nitros? I'm going shell shopping soon.
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#3138729 - 01/25/13 10:40 AM
Re: Hevi-Shot
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I think y'all are over-thinking this....more uniform pellets would fly better than irregular shaped ones... The reason the hevi shot is more destructive isn't because it's heavier than lead its because there is more of it in the shells. Most of these shells (3 1/2") have at least 2 1/4 0z of shot. Nitros may have more.. The weight plus the added number of pellets causes the patterns to be better. It's like hitting something with one pellet as opposed to hitting same target with 30. End result is same but way more damage with more shot on target..the shape of shot doesn't matter and actually because lead does deform it actually does more damage but not as much of it in target.. Hevi shot is hard like steel...you need more of it to do the job but it works. This is why people like the hevi 7s there are so many more pellets in a shell it just patterns great and it devastating.. This is all just my opinion for what it's worth.... I will say this I am getting to point I don't care to pay these high prices for these shells when anything will kill a turkey at 30-35 yards and that seems to be the average shot for me.
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#3138734 - 01/25/13 10:44 AM
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30-35 yard is definately about my average shot Roost 1.
And I have never used the #7s, and not at all saying they dont work but I would think for more down range energy and knockdown power #5s or #6s would be better, but of course it is less pellets.
Yall fill me in, I may just try the 7s
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#3138739 - 01/25/13 10:45 AM
Re: Hevi-Shot
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So, which is the best shell besides Nitros?
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#3138744 - 01/25/13 10:48 AM
Re: Hevi-Shot
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I may try the Hevi MagBlends Andy. My dad uses them and he loves them. It is always best to try a shot pattern out of your set-up before you hunt, but I hate buying a box of five shells for nearly 30$, and then using a shell to see.
Any of yall shoot an 11-87 super mag 3.5" Hevi Magblends with a Primos Tight wad choke? Not sure what constriction no my choke is.
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#3138753 - 01/25/13 10:52 AM
Re: Hevi-Shot
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30-35 yard is definately about my average shot Roost 1.
And I have never used the #7s, and not at all saying they dont work but I would think for more down range energy and knockdown power #5s or #6s would be better, but of course it is less pellets.
Yall fill me in, I may just try the 7s
I don't use 7's either for above mentioned reasons. But this may be old school thinking because hevi shot is different than lead... However at 30-35 yds lead will do the job and has done it very nicely over the years... Heck at 35 yds lead and a full choke gets the job done... Thing is is everybody today wants to be able to put x number of pellets in 10" target. Not knocking anyone but it has become a pissing contest... I would bet some guys shoot way more targets than turkeys... I am more interested in killing birds than bragging on how many pellets I can put in a 10" target at 40yds..... I am sure I just opened a can of worms.... Oh well!!!
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#3138758 - 01/25/13 10:54 AM
Re: Hevi-Shot
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I shot 7s for a few years with AWESOME results, i switched to Magblends mainly because they are MUCH easier to find locally or online and usually are a tad cheaper.
I got tired to trying to find 7's and find ones with the lot numbers i wanted. as far as performance they are pretty nasty!
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