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#3137706 - 01/24/13 03:37 PM Rub-line Secrets
Vermin93
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Rub-line Secrets by Greg Miller. Anyone read this? I'm about half way through it. I think it's going to help me with my end-of-season and spring scouting.
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#3137818 - 01/24/13 05:19 PM Re: Rub-line Secrets [Re: Vermin93]
mathews338
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never read it but the secret is to be there the day that the big buck walks by in daylight! J/K!
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#3137901 - 01/24/13 06:24 PM Re: Rub-line Secrets [Re: mathews338]
bbuck14
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I read it a couple years ago. Very good book.
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#3138090 - 01/24/13 08:43 PM Re: Rub-line Secrets [Re: mathews338]
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 Originally Posted By: mathews338
never read it but the secret is to be there the day that the big buck walks by in daylight! J/K!


Right on! That is the big question....."when will he be there?"..... If I was betting my money, it wouldn't be during hunting hours. At the end of bow season is your best bet. Once you hit the rut, sorry, but I'm going to be in the best terrain feature. Even if your 100 yards from all the sign, you have a better bet. It's situational, but all sign tells you is that a buck has been there. This year I found a point that every cedar was rubbed to death, even as big as telephone poles. I'm talking at least 15 of them. I KNEW this wouldn't be a good place to kill that deer, and guess what, it wasn't. Even what I know, I still hunted it, and it didn't produce anything! I knew better but couldn't help myself. One morning when it was drizzling, I got up and still hunted where I was planning on hunting (which was about 200 yards away) , I jumped him. Should have stick with my instincts.
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#3138167 - 01/24/13 09:35 PM Re: Rub-line Secrets [Re: JCDEERMAN]
Vermin93
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 Originally Posted By: JCDEERMAN
 Originally Posted By: mathews338
never read it but the secret is to be there the day that the big buck walks by in daylight! J/K!


Right on! That is the big question....."when will he be there?"..... If I was betting my money, it wouldn't be during hunting hours. At the end of bow season is your best bet. Once you hit the rut, sorry, but I'm going to be in the best terrain feature. Even if your 100 yards from all the sign, you have a better bet. It's situational, but all sign tells you is that a buck has been there. This year I found a point that every cedar was rubbed to death, even as big as telephone poles. I'm talking at least 15 of them. I KNEW this wouldn't be a good place to kill that deer, and guess what, it wasn't. Even what I know, I still hunted it, and it didn't produce anything! I knew better but couldn't help myself. One morning when it was drizzling, I got up and still hunted where I was planning on hunting (which was about 200 yards away) , I jumped him. Should have stick with my instincts.


Actually, if you were to follow the advice in this book you wouldn't have hunted that cluster of cedars unless there was a traceable rub line leading from the cedars to a bedding area. The book emphasizes that isolated rubs or isolated clusters of rubs are exactly that - isolated.
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#3138242 - 01/24/13 11:06 PM Re: Rub-line Secrets [Re: Vermin93]
Mike Belt
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I keep rubs/rublines in mind when scouting...especially from one year to the next. True enough, most of them are probably made at night but I've seen bucks rubbing during the day. The time frame is when to concentrate on them. What time of the year are they generally made? If that buck wasn't killed last year and all things being equal the following year he's apt to follow that same general line of travel from the first of Oct up until the rut. That's the prime time for rub hunting.
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#3138450 - 01/25/13 08:03 AM Re: Rub-line Secrets [Re: Mike Belt]
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Obviously, I've read it (see Chapter 4).

I don't agree with all of Greg's premisses, but I do agree he is on the right track.
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#3138559 - 01/25/13 09:16 AM Re: Rub-line Secrets [Re: BSK]
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I thought 'bedding area' was a buzzword used on hunting shows? I have never found 'a bedding area' but I have found deer beds and watched deer bed down just about every where.

I get more and more confused the longer I deer hunt.
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#3138633 - 01/25/13 09:53 AM Re: Rub-line Secrets [Re: DntBrnDPig]
benellivol
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 Originally Posted By: DntBrnDPig
I thought 'bedding area' was a buzzword used on hunting shows? I have never found 'a bedding area' but I have found deer beds and watched deer bed down just about every where.

I get more and more confused the longer I deer hunt.


There's definitely areas where deer are more likely to bed.

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#3138681 - 01/25/13 10:18 AM Re: Rub-line Secrets [Re: DntBrnDPig]
RiverBuck10
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 Originally Posted By: DntBrnDPig
I thought 'bedding area' was a buzzword used on hunting shows? I have never found 'a bedding area' but I have found deer beds and watched deer bed down just about every where.

I get more and more confused the longer I deer hunt.


Amen brother
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#3138686 - 01/25/13 10:20 AM Re: Rub-line Secrets [Re: benellivol]
Vermin93
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 Originally Posted By: benellivol
 Originally Posted By: DntBrnDPig
I thought 'bedding area' was a buzzword used on hunting shows? I have never found 'a bedding area' but I have found deer beds and watched deer bed down just about every where.

I get more and more confused the longer I deer hunt.


There's definitely areas where deer are more likely to bed.


Yes, when the author refers to bedding areas in the book he means larger areas than what many of us assume he means. For example, he referred to a 2-acre bedding area as being a smaller bedding area. An entire swamp could be considered a bedding area. It's not one exact little spot where a buck goes frequently to bed.
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#3140546 - 01/26/13 06:29 PM Re: Rub-line Secrets [Re: Vermin93]
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Yep,read it,good book
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