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#3136676 - 01/23/13 09:53 PM women in the infantry
DirtyBear0311
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This is coming from a combat vet who spent four years in the Marine Corps infantry and IS NOT A SEXIST!!! Letting women into the infantry is an absolutely horrible idea. There are a number of physical, philosophical, and tactical reasons why it is a bad idea. Because of this, if women serve alongside men in combat, people will die unnecessarily. I get the feeling that this is less of a military decision and more of a liberal appeasement decision where everyone and everything must be equal despite the world not working like that.
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#3136693 - 01/23/13 10:07 PM Re: women in the infantry [Re: DirtyBear0311]
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 Originally Posted By: DirtyBear0311
This is coming from a combat vet who spent four years in the Marine Corps infantry and IS NOT A SEXIST!!! Letting women into the infantry is an absolutely horrible idea. There are a number of physical, philosophical, and tactical reasons why it is a bad idea. Because of this, if women serve alongside men in combat, people will die unnecessarily. I get the feeling that this is less of a military decision and more of a liberal appeasement decision where everyone and everything must be equal despite the world not working like that.


I think you're on to something here. The emasculation of the U.S. military and the nation they defend is happening before our eyes faster than most would have thought possible. Meanwhile, our enemies watch in disbelief and utter delight that their time of triumph is coming even sooner than they had thought.
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#3136721 - 01/23/13 10:41 PM Re: women in the infantry [Re: Bambi Buster]
rdl65
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Other than trying to keep queers happy, it's the worst mistake the military ever made.
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#3136724 - 01/23/13 10:47 PM Re: women in the infantry [Re: DirtyBear0311]
AndyW
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 Originally Posted By: DirtyBear0311
This is coming from a combat vet who spent four years in the Marine Corps infantry and IS NOT A SEXIST!!! Letting women into the infantry is an absolutely horrible idea. There are a number of physical, philosophical, and tactical reasons why it is a bad idea. Because of this, if women serve alongside men in combat, people will die unnecessarily. I get the feeling that this is less of a military decision and more of a liberal appeasement decision where everyone and everything must be equal despite the world not working like that.


Agreed 100%. Combat is man's work.

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#3136756 - 01/24/13 12:21 AM Re: women in the infantry [Re: AndyW]
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Further input by another who's been there/done that.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...ections_opinion
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#3136979 - 01/24/13 08:14 AM Re: women in the infantry [Re: Bambi Buster]
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leave it to the men
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#3137008 - 01/24/13 08:38 AM Re: women in the infantry [Re: ROUGH COUNTRY HUNTER]
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Posted this in the political forum...

 Originally Posted By: 44fanatic
Good points below...Most women can't. Their body is smaller and is designed differently. The female heart is 25% smaller and their bones are not as heavy or sturdy. Load up a woman with 40lbs of body armor and 50lbs of patrol equipment and have her move for a month with an infantry unit, most will soon have stress fractures and hip problems. The stress fractures (lower leg) will be a result of the additional weight and the hip problems will be a result of the lengthed stride to keep up. As a former Army Drill Sergeant in AIT and Master Fitness Trainer, I saw more shin and hip problems from the females than I ever did from the males coming out of basic training. When males had the stress fractures, they were usually the result of poor shoe selection. These injuries took months to heal. As for the written tests, those will not change in the military.

What I do not want to see is a lowering of the physical standards for women in combat MOS's. Increase the female physical fitness standards to that of a male, not lower the male standards. If she cant stay up with the infantry squad during normal training, then reclass her to a support MOS, not move her to the company orderly room (EO suit waiting to happen).


 Originally Posted By: Redfred16
Here's the problem with it. It's not if women can or can't for the most part. It's an added burden to an already stressed combat leader. Now on top of worrying about training, logisitcs, missions, ect. He has to worry if PFC Jones is dating SPC Smith. Or if SGT White and SGT Black are dropping the soap for each other. Then god forbid there should be in combat with girlfriends and boyfriends, husbands and wives, boyfriends and boyfriends, girlfriends and girlfriends all fighting beside each other and someone gets killed. You've not effectively taken 2 out of action with 1 casualty. And yes, despite what rules end up in place, this will happen. Even the rules they put to "ensure" this doesn't happen will be altered by some court because it is "unfair" to them. This all creates more stress for the soldiers and the leaders, of course the politicans don't care about the guys in the field, just as long as they can rack up political points.

Then we will end up with women claiming discrimination because not enough of them are in combat arms, so they will have to lower the physical standards. Just like we've seen with affirmative action and thier wrriten tests.

This is the left's way of destroying the military.
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#3137029 - 01/24/13 08:59 AM Re: women in the infantry [Re: 44fanatic]
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They should have to sign up for the draft too.
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#3137034 - 01/24/13 09:01 AM Re: women in the infantry [Re: 44fanatic]
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I got a call from one of my boys in the Marines last night and he was on a rant about this. He said everyone's feeling is that they'll drop the physically requirements so the females can pass the same ones as the males. Remember the aroma of a team without a shower for a couple weeks then throw a female in that mix yuc.
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#3137042 - 01/24/13 09:04 AM Re: women in the infantry [Re: wskp11]
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Just like they did to get women into the fire halls.
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