#3136137 - 01/23/13 02:14 PM
Re: Question? Guns at work.
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Guns in parking lots was a contentious issue in the legislature last year, and supposedly cost one representative her seat. I will be surprised if it doesn't come back up again this year.
From what I've read, until the legislature changes the law employers do have the right to ban guns on their property including those of carry permit holders.
Good post sir!
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#3136139 - 01/23/13 02:20 PM
Re: Question? Guns at work.
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They passed legislation for this down here in Texas in 2011. Some of you may be interested in what is and isn't legally allowed:
Texas Guns at Work Law
It would be good to see Tennessee join this list of States...
"Texas joins a number of other states that have enacted these so-called “parking lot” laws in the past several years, including Alaska, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Utah. "
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#3136140 - 01/23/13 02:22 PM
Re: Question? Guns at work.
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Ours was passed in SB-308 or SB-89, cant remember which...I guess I need to ead up on my state a little more. Federal property is a little different for me though.
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#3136146 - 01/23/13 02:28 PM
Re: Question? Guns at work.
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Guns in parking lots was a contentious issue in the legislature last year, and supposedly cost one representative her seat. I will be surprised if it doesn't come back up again this year.
From what I've read, until the legislature changes the law employers do have the right to ban guns on their property including those of carry permit holders.
I believe you're right however, in order for them to have a right to search your vehicle you'd either have to: * Agree by signing some agreement prior to or during employment or * Have been talking about what you have in your vehicle (at which point they could only ask you to leave if you refused)
Right?
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#3136156 - 01/23/13 02:35 PM
Re: Question? Guns at work.
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Guns in parking lots was a contentious issue in the legislature last year, and supposedly cost one representative her seat. I will be surprised if it doesn't come back up again this year.
From what I've read, until the legislature changes the law employers do have the right to ban guns on their property including those of carry permit holders. I believe you're right however, in order for them to have a right to search your vehicle you'd either have to: * Agree by signing some agreement prior to or during employment or * Have been talking about what you have in your vehicle (at which point they could only ask you to leave if you refused) Right?
I know of a lady down here who was fired for not letting them search her vehicle, this was in 10 or 11 before the law changed.
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#3136166 - 01/23/13 02:42 PM
Re: Question? Guns at work.
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scn
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Guns in parking lots was a contentious issue in the legislature last year, and supposedly cost one representative her seat. I will be surprised if it doesn't come back up again this year.
From what I've read, until the legislature changes the law employers do have the right to ban guns on their property including those of carry permit holders. I believe you're right however, in order for them to have a right to search your vehicle you'd either have to: * Agree by signing some agreement prior to or during employment or * Have been talking about what you have in your vehicle (at which point they could only ask you to leave if you refused) Right?
I have no idea on what an employer can and cannot do. My training is on the LE end for searches.
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#3136169 - 01/23/13 02:47 PM
Re: Question? Guns at work.
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In TN you can be fired for any thing except for the protected reasons. Race and what not. But if you are fired you have a right for unemployment unless they prove you were fired for just cause. Most places a work would have trouble forcing you to allow them to search your vehicle and if you have your gun locked in a box in the trunk it would even be more difficult for them to make you open the locked box. But could you still be fired? Of course. There are some places that they may have ability to search, like working at the federal reserve, Nissan plant, correction facility.
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#3136174 - 01/23/13 02:54 PM
Re: Question? Guns at work.
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89cherokeelimited
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In TN you can be fired for any thing except for the protected reasons. Race and what not. But if you are fired you have a right for unemployment unless they prove you were fired for just cause. Most places a work would have trouble forcing you to allow them to search your vehicle and if you have your gun locked in a box in the trunk it would even be more difficult for them to make you open the locked box. But could you still be fired? Of course. There are some places that they may have ability to search, like working at the federal reserve, Nissan plant, correction facility.
That's my issue. My work doesn't own our buildings or the parking lot but we work on federal and local government contracts.
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#3136224 - 01/23/13 03:39 PM
Re: Question? Guns at work.
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The last two jobs that I worked at made you sign an agreement that your car could be searched any time it was on company property. Had to sign this agreement on your first day of work. Both places also included knives along with guns.
I am seeing no guns, knives, or other weapons signs at more and more business's in Kingsport. Last two doctors offices I went to had new signs telling that no guns or knives were allowed in the building.
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#3136237 - 01/23/13 03:50 PM
Re: Question? Guns at work.
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I didn't want to hijack another thread so I thought I'd ask in a new one. Anyone who knows me knows I'm very Pro 2nd amendment, and I carry.
On the subject of guns at work and in parking lots...
If a business owner does not want guns on his property, does he have the right to refuse to allow it. Since it is his personal property, does he have the right to set the rules on his property?
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