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#3136070 - 01/23/13 01:39 PM Question? Guns at work.
strutandrut
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I didn't want to hijack another thread so I thought I'd ask in a new one. Anyone who knows me knows I'm very Pro 2nd amendment, and I carry.

On the subject of guns at work and in parking lots...

If a business owner does not want guns on his property, does he have the right to refuse to allow it. Since it is his personal property, does he have the right to set the rules on his property?

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#3136086 - 01/23/13 01:45 PM Re: Question? Guns at work. [Re: strutandrut]
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 Originally Posted By: strutandrut
I didn't want to hijack another thread so I thought I'd ask in a new one. Anyone who knows me knows I'm very Pro 2nd amendment, and I carry.

On the subject of guns at work and in parking lots...

If a business owner does not want guns on his property, does he have the right to refuse to allow it. Since it is his personal property, does he have the right to set the rules on his property?

Opinions?



imo yes, also in the work place the higher up can tap your work phone, so I was told by a boss of mine one time, I quit immediately
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#3136089 - 01/23/13 01:47 PM Re: Question? Guns at work. [Re: Chaneylake]
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#3136093 - 01/23/13 01:48 PM Re: Question? Guns at work. [Re: Mossy Oak]
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Different states have different laws. I'm not familiar with TN laws since just moving back here, but some states have laws that work for the armed citizen - allowing them to keep the gun in the vehicle if it is locked and out of plain site.
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#3136104 - 01/23/13 01:52 PM Re: Question? Guns at work. [Re: Mossy Oak]
waynesworld
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As it should be the owner should have the right but if he takes your right to protect yourself he should be held liable for your protection. If I do not want shoes worn in my house it is my house but if you cut your foot on a nail it is my fault you could not ware shoes.
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#3136108 - 01/23/13 01:54 PM Re: Question? Guns at work. [Re: Nyper]
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In GA, nope, signs carry no force. The law is the law and the cost of operating said business in the state is following the laws of that state. If you are asked to leave a business for any reason, including a weapon you must immediately or face a trespass charge. Our laws say ONLY the legislature can pass weapons laws and no other entity in that state can add or delete them and NO side steps from that pre-emption. I do like GA sometimes. TN lets to many cities and towns get away from the states pre-emption laws. Employees of said businesses are different story, employer says no guns, its no guns.

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#3136117 - 01/23/13 01:59 PM Re: Question? Guns at work. [Re: Unicam]
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Actually until last year I believe the law in TN was that a no weapons sign had to have a very specific verbage on it to be legal and could not be a "No Guns" or the circle with the line through the gun. Believe it changed last year though and now all signs are considered legal in TN.. No matter, if asked to leave for any reason, you must or face a trespass charge....
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#3136121 - 01/23/13 02:00 PM Re: Question? Guns at work. [Re: Unicam]
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ooopps now I read the at work part..yep here in GA that is enforced, right to work and all that, no guns on private property if the owner of said business says so for employees....
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#3136123 - 01/23/13 02:03 PM Re: Question? Guns at work. [Re: Unicam]
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Guns in parking lots was a contentious issue in the legislature last year, and supposedly cost one representative her seat. I will be surprised if it doesn't come back up again this year.

From what I've read, until the legislature changes the law employers do have the right to ban guns on their property including those of carry permit holders.
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#3136131 - 01/23/13 02:10 PM Re: Question? Guns at work. [Re: Unicam]
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From what I was told when I first moved down here, in TN employers can make rules that do not allow employees to keep firearms in thier cars. There is a proposed law to change this, VW says they may not expand in TN if it is passed. Just a note to you VW owners.

2 Years ago when Wisconsin finally passed the CC law, they put specific provisions in it for employers and employees and they have alot of common sense to them. An employer cannot stop an employee from storing thier legally owned firearms in thier car in the legal way, unloaded, in a locked case, ect. The reasoning behind this was two fold, first people are not under an employers control while moving to and from work. Secondly the car is the private property of the employee.
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