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#3134984 - 01/22/13 06:44 PM Re: Not to hijack,fee for baiting? [Re: ChippewaPartners]
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 Originally Posted By: ChippewaPartners
I would think the lobbying efforts from the food plot seed companies, the makers of feeders, the sellers of bait, etc. all will have major influence in getting the legislature to vote in baiting. It's all about the money, not TWRA.

At least that has been the case in most states that allow baiting. And if memory serves, it was how crossbow hunting made it into TN. Remember, lobbyists are dishing out a billion, yes, a BILLION a day in Washington, D.C. and you think your vote still counts?


It had NOTHING whatsoever to do with crossbow hunting becoming legal in TN.
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#3135026 - 01/22/13 07:09 PM Re: Not to hijack,fee for baiting? [Re: Poleaxe]
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 Originally Posted By: Poleaxe
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: Hunter 257W
To stir this issue a bit more, it can easily be said that food plots are nothing more than baiting for rich people. Whether it's a simple pile of corn or 3 acres of Imperial Clover, both are an unnatural food source placed by hunters to attract deer to hunt over.


the food plot is there for the deer to feed on outside of hunting seasons and requires a LOT more WORK than simply dumping out a bag of corn.


Some people dont have a tractor or afford to hire somebody to make a food plot. Either way corn, soybean, winter wheat, its placed to attract the wildlife in more of a natural state. I lease 1000 acres and all of it is wooded except a small field behind the owners house that they dont want hunted. Some people just dont want to know that maybe a kid over on the other property killed a buck coming to his feeder instead of the person who got a trail cam pic of a buck he put his name on the yr before after one sighting in his food plot. Thats excatly why people dont want baiting.


If it was legal you could have set out a feeder too and problem solved. puts everyone on the same playing field.


Edited by birddog (01/22/13 07:10 PM)

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#3135102 - 01/22/13 07:35 PM Re: Not to hijack,fee for baiting? [Re: birddog]
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Another thought,at 10 to 11 dollars a bag now,how much would you buy?
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#3135142 - 01/22/13 07:49 PM Re: Not to hijack,fee for baiting? [Re: stik]
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 Originally Posted By: stik
the food plot is there for the deer to feed on outside of hunting seasons and requires a LOT more WORK than simply dumping out a bag of corn.


So if I bring a bag of corn every week for 52 weeks a year, and promise to carry the bag on my shoulder while walking 2 miles - is that enough "work" to make it ok?

Kinda points out the silliness of the distinction you are making ;\)
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#3135166 - 01/22/13 07:57 PM Re: Not to hijack,fee for baiting? [Re: -DRM-]
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 Originally Posted By: -DRM-
 Originally Posted By: stik
the food plot is there for the deer to feed on outside of hunting seasons and requires a LOT more WORK than simply dumping out a bag of corn.


So if I bring a bag of corn every week for 52 weeks a year, and promise to carry the bag on my shoulder while walking 2 miles - is that enough "work" to make it ok?

Kinda points out the silliness of the distinction you are making ;\)
No,one bag of corn is not near as much food per week as even a small food plot
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#3135552 - 01/23/13 06:38 AM Re: Not to hijack,fee for baiting? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
No,one bag of corn is not near as much food per week as even a small food plot


You have a magic corn food plot that produces corn 52 weeks out of the year?

So what about 2 bags per week? 3? I'm pretty sure my point still stands.
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#3135577 - 01/23/13 07:17 AM Re: Not to hijack,fee for baiting? [Re: muddyboots]
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 Originally Posted By: muddyboots
Rediculous Idea. Either bait or dont bait.


Agree - if the science for or against is solid then there is no room for wiggling -

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#3135583 - 01/23/13 07:20 AM Re: Not to hijack,fee for baiting? [Re: ferg]
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It's not about 'work' it's about the congregation of deer eating in a single location -

You dump out a pile of corn and all the deer are eating in a 2 or 3 square foot area - NO GOOD -

Plant a plot - 5 acres say, and deer 'graze' naturally - less chance of the transmission of any available germs - bTB - EHD etc -

Now - if you want to carry out your bag(s) of corn and spread them over a large area - 5 acres say - cool -

Maybe the 'solution' to this argument is to limit the size, that is establish a minimum size of what a 'food plot' must be -

ferg....
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#3135596 - 01/23/13 07:27 AM Re: Not to hijack,fee for baiting? [Re: ferg]
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 Originally Posted By: ferg
It's not about 'work' it's about the congregation of deer eating in a single location -

You dump out a pile of corn and all the deer are eating in a 2 or 3 square foot area - NO GOOD -

Plant a plot - 5 acres say, and deer 'graze' naturally - less chance of the transmission of any available germs - bTB - EHD etc -

Now - if you want to carry out your bag(s) of corn and spread them over a large area - 5 acres say - cool -

Maybe the 'solution' to this argument is to limit the size, that is establish a minimum size of what a 'food plot' must be -

ferg....



Ya becuase it has been so "NO GOOD" for the KY herd.

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#3135626 - 01/23/13 07:51 AM Re: Not to hijack,fee for baiting? [Re: ferg]
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 Originally Posted By: ferg
It's not about 'work' it's about the congregation of deer eating in a single location -


The first guy said it *was* about the work.

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You dump out a pile of corn and all the deer are eating in a 2 or 3 square foot area - NO GOOD -


Is this just opinion, or do you have science backing this up?
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