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#3129393 - 01/18/13 10:08 AM Poodle Shooter
FLTENNHUNTER1
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http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01...-for-civilians/

"Marine: .223 May Not Be Lethal Enough for Civilians"

This is a great story, read more at the link.
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#3129468 - 01/18/13 11:26 AM Re: Poodle Shooter [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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To be honest, the .223 round is not the best round for anti-personel use. But its what is issued.
This article is exactly right.
But in the hands of a well-trained rifleman it will do the job. With any caliber its the man behind the rifle that makes the difference more than the lethality of the round.

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#3129532 - 01/18/13 12:07 PM Re: Poodle Shooter [Re: BlackBelt]
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True, the job of the round and the basic rifleman is to take the enemy combatant out of the fight, not kill all of them. With the advent of better body armor I think the 6.8 would be better suited to the job nowadays.

Edited by Unicam (01/18/13 12:08 PM)
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#3129611 - 01/18/13 01:02 PM Re: Poodle Shooter [Re: Unicam]
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Now I thought the .223 was a super high powered man killing round.
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#3129679 - 01/18/13 01:58 PM Re: Poodle Shooter [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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great write up. and story
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#3129912 - 01/18/13 05:48 PM Re: Poodle Shooter [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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 Originally Posted By: TeamMainStreet
Now I thought the .223 was a super high powered man killing round.


The media and at least one former General make it sound like it is too dangerous for ordinary citizens to own, but yet many states will not let you use it to hunt deer.
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#3129973 - 01/18/13 06:40 PM Re: Poodle Shooter [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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Who cares abou the ammo. How scary does the gun look?
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#3129990 - 01/18/13 06:54 PM Re: Poodle Shooter [Re: Crappie Luck]
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A .223 is not designed to kill in military applications. If you kill an enemy combatant, you have taken one man out of the picture. If you injure him (the job of .223) you take out him and at least two others to provide aid/get him off the battle field. The jist of it is a kill eliminates one, and injury eliminates 3. At least this is what they taught us in Cavalry school, Ft. Knox, KY.

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#3130022 - 01/18/13 07:19 PM Re: Poodle Shooter [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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#3130265 - 01/18/13 10:13 PM Re: Poodle Shooter [Re: chasinsmallies]
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 Originally Posted By: chasinsmallies
A .223 is not designed to kill in military applications. If you kill an enemy combatant, you have taken one man out of the picture. If you injure him (the job of .223) you take out him and at least two others to provide aid/get him off the battle field. The jist of it is a kill eliminates one, and injury eliminates 3. At least this is what they taught us in Cavalry school, Ft. Knox, KY.


They mentioned it at Ft. Benning on more than one occasion in 1980 as well.... ;\)
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