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#3126553 - 01/16/13 12:00 PM 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke?
Jer
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how would you guys answer this question? had that thrown at me today....

Is a nuke considered arms?
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#3126568 - 01/16/13 12:06 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: Jer]
FLTENNHUNTER1
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The Right to Keep and Bear Arms refers to Arms you can carry.

Rifles, RPG's, Stinger Missles, TOW's, and such are covered by the Second Amendment.

The intention of the Second Amendment was to enable the citizens to have the same weapons as the Government. We the People are the Militia.
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#3126571 - 01/16/13 12:08 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: Jer]
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I'd say
"Sure you can, moron, If you can figure out how to carry it concealed"

Where does idiotic replies like this come from? THESE are the people who want to have a "Reasonable debate about common sense regulations"?

Good Grief.
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#3126573 - 01/16/13 12:09 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: Jer]
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It is a classic strawman argument. Tell them to give you a argument that doe not contain a inherent logical fallacy and you will retort.
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#3126576 - 01/16/13 12:11 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
Jer
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 Originally Posted By: FLTENNHUNTER1
The intention of the Second Amendment was to enable the citizens to have the same weapons as the Government. We the People are the Militia.


That is exactly what I said^^ that got me the response of the nukes..."Well the government has nukes"...
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#3126578 - 01/16/13 12:12 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: Jer]
FLTENNHUNTER1
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 Originally Posted By: Jer
 Originally Posted By: FLTENNHUNTER1
The intention of the Second Amendment was to enable the citizens to have the same weapons as the Government. We the People are the Militia.


That is exactly what I said^^ that got me the response of the nukes..."Well the government has nukes"...


If you can carry a Minute Man II then go for it!!
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#3126580 - 01/16/13 12:13 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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 Originally Posted By: FLTENNHUNTER1
 Originally Posted By: Jer
 Originally Posted By: FLTENNHUNTER1
The intention of the Second Amendment was to enable the citizens to have the same weapons as the Government. We the People are the Militia.


That is exactly what I said^^ that got me the response of the nukes..."Well the government has nukes"...


If you can carry a Minute Man II then go for it!!


Or afford to build it!!!
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#3126582 - 01/16/13 12:14 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: Unicam]
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 Originally Posted By: Unicam
 Originally Posted By: FLTENNHUNTER1
 Originally Posted By: Jer
 Originally Posted By: FLTENNHUNTER1
The intention of the Second Amendment was to enable the citizens to have the same weapons as the Government. We the People are the Militia.


That is exactly what I said^^ that got me the response of the nukes..."Well the government has nukes"...


If you can carry a Minute Man II then go for it!!


Or afford to build it!!!


Or, know how to maintain it.
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#3126590 - 01/16/13 12:21 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: Poser]
BlackBelt
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These are arguments you are not going to win, so why try?
Simply say you have plans for your own space station and you NEED that nuke to protect it from aliens and Romulans from hostile takeover. Add in that you know The Matrix movie was about your life and the government is constantly scanning your brainwave patterns for ideas about 'the resistance'.

I dont waste time on those who use irrationality as their premise to ground their argument on. Thats a no-win situation.
I simply wave those people to the side and go on about my day.


Edited by BlackBelt (01/16/13 12:22 PM)

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#3126594 - 01/16/13 12:23 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: BlackBelt]
-DRM-
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Do you need me to explain why I *need* the First Amendment?
No?
Then why are you asking me to explain why I *need* the 2nd?
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#3126615 - 01/16/13 12:35 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
I'd say
"Sure you can, moron, If you can figure out how to carry it concealed"



I'm modeling my hand-held tactical nukes after the ones used on Starship Troopers!
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#3126700 - 01/16/13 01:22 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: Jer]
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 Originally Posted By: Jer
how would you guys answer this question? had that thrown at me today....

Is a nuke considered arms?


No. Arms, as was the common term in the time of the Revolution, refers to man-portable infantry armament....small arms, perhaps. This, in comparison to light and heavy artillery, naval vessels, and other items not typically held by the common man in ANY time, let alone the founding of our country or now.
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#3127130 - 01/16/13 05:32 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: Jer]
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 Originally Posted By: Jer
how would you guys answer this question? had that thrown at me today....

Is a nuke considered arms?

if you are still interested, I still have friends in Russia, its buy one get second free.

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#3127133 - 01/16/13 05:34 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: vj333]
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When Iran mass produces them prices will come way down.
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#3127284 - 01/16/13 07:05 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: Crappie Luck]
FLTENNHUNTER1
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
When Iran mass produces them prices will come way down.



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#3127356 - 01/16/13 07:33 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: Crappie Luck]
William
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
When Iran mass produces them prices will come way down.



And obutthead apologizes to them for the US slowing their progress...

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#3128121 - 01/17/13 10:35 AM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: William]
BMan
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The Second Amendment ALLOWS nothing.

Tell them to read and learn the Constitution and ask then. Until then, you're not wasting time on people who have no knowledge of which they ask.
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#3128127 - 01/17/13 10:39 AM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: BMan]
gator-n-buck
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Seen this topic for 2 days and finally decide to open this thread. Now I'm wonder why did I open this thread..... Carry on.... \:\)
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#3128155 - 01/17/13 10:59 AM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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There was/is an 'arms act' of 196? something that already limits the second amendment to non-high explosive stuff - they use some other term but that's what it means 2a donesn't cover items of mass destruction -
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#3128156 - 01/17/13 11:00 AM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: ferg]
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"No, you are not allowed to OWN a Nuke. But liberals and Obama supporters are allowed to RIDE them for free"

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#3128254 - 01/17/13 11:47 AM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: Crappie Luck]
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Ferg, you refer to the "Gun Control Act of 1968."

Ther is also the 1986 ban on manufacture of new full autos for civilians, although the military and LE communities can get them. Full autos that existed before 1986 are transferable amongst civilians, but there are no new ones, this is one thing that makes them expensive to purchase in the first place.
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#3128345 - 01/17/13 12:47 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: -DRM-]
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 Originally Posted By: -DRM-
Do you need me to explain why I *need* the First Amendment?
No?
Then why are you asking me to explain why I *need* the 2nd?


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This X10
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#3128353 - 01/17/13 12:52 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: LB FANATIC]
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#3128429 - 01/17/13 01:46 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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 Originally Posted By: FLTENNHUNTER1
The Right to Keep and Bear Arms refers to Arms you can carry.

The intention of the Second Amendment was to enable the citizens to have the same weapons as the Government. We the People are the Militia.


This is the same question the idiot that was giving the TV interview in W. VA made. I saw it on here. the guy in the interview said that proponents of the 2nd just want what a standard infantry solder carries. i.e. m-16, 240, S.A.W. and the idiot comes back with so you think we should own nukes? Unfortunately we are arguing with a brainwashed and very ignorant opponent, who thinks this is a valid and logical argument....
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#3128493 - 01/17/13 03:00 PM Re: 2nd amendment allows me to own a nuke? [Re: Bone Collector]
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I would be fine without a nuke. Just a standard f15 with heat sinkers, some wicked canons, and a few daisy cutters.
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