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#3124260 - 01/14/13 10:38 PM Experimentation with Fermentation
WMAn
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I'm reading Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon Morrell, and it didn't take long for her writing on lacto-fermentation to catch my eye. So this weekend at the Farmers Market, I picked up a gallon of raw milk and said let the fun begin.

First up, I tried raw milk. I did a comparison between the raw milk and whole milk I bought from a local dairy that is pasteurized but not homogenized. I poured one equally sized glass of each. There were no differences in appearance. I then smelt each milk. The pasteurized milk smelled the way milk has always smelled. To me, the raw milk had no real detectable scent. I then tasted each milk, rinsing my mouth with water in between tastings. Again, the pasteurized milk tasted like milk has always tasted. The raw milk tasted different and has a very silky texture. The texture reminds me of the last spoonful of melted ice cream at the bottom of the bowl.

Next, I needed whey for my lacto fermentation. I poured two quarts of raw milk into an airtight glass container and left it sitting out for a day and a half. Now, I am not squeamish, but this was tough. It kind of went against everything I thought I knew about how to handle dairy (i.e. keep it cold). After sitting out, the milk separated and I poured it into a mesh strainer lined with a kitchen towel. After the towel stopped dripping, I tied it around a skewer and let it sit a few hours to completely drip out. This separated the solids from the liquid, which left me with cream cheese and whey.

My first fermentation experiment is orangina. A fermented drink that includes:
- Juice of 12 oranges
- Two teaspoons salt
- 1/2 Teaspoon orange extract
- 1 1/4 quarts water
- 1/4 cup of whey
You combine all the ingredients in a glass container, stir well, close the lid, and leave sitting out for two more days.

After two days, you put it in the fridge and after a week you should have a banana flavored fermented beverage.

I'll let you know how it turns out. Later this week, I'll be making sauerkraut. Does anyone else have experience with fermented foods and drinks?
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#3124474 - 01/15/13 07:35 AM Re: Experimentation with Fermentation [Re: WMAn]
jb3
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The only fermented food I eat is kimchi. Got a Korean place close by that does a really good dish with it. Takes some getting used to, but I think it rocks.
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#3124542 - 01/15/13 08:23 AM Re: Experimentation with Fermentation [Re: jb3]
memfuzz
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I've been lacto fermenting sauerkraut and dill pickles for a year or two now. Love it! I'd like to try to make kefir sometime.
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#3124567 - 01/15/13 08:43 AM Re: Experimentation with Fermentation [Re: memfuzz]
BamaProud
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Does beer count? I have 5 gallons in the fermenter right now. :-)
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#3124669 - 01/15/13 10:03 AM Re: Experimentation with Fermentation [Re: BamaProud]
TAFKAP
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I'd love to find some raw milk. The best stuff I ever drank was fresh from the tit, straight out of the milk pail.

Saurkraut would be good, as well, but I don't have the equipment to pull it off.
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#3124709 - 01/15/13 10:29 AM Re: Experimentation with Fermentation [Re: TAFKAP]
jb3
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I did not know a person could sell raw milk or am I thinking raw milk is not pasteurized?

I believe if you are part of a csa you can buy a share of a cow and get it that way. Not 100% sure.

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#3124724 - 01/15/13 10:44 AM Re: Experimentation with Fermentation [Re: jb3]
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 Originally Posted By: jb3
I did not know a person could sell raw milk or am I thinking raw milk is not pasteurized?

I believe if you are part of a csa you can buy a share of a cow and get it that way. Not 100% sure.


In Memphis, there is a grocery that is a CSA called The Trolley Stop. They have raw milk marked "not for human consumption"
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#3124733 - 01/15/13 10:56 AM Re: Experimentation with Fermentation [Re: Poser]
TAFKAP
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Yeah, the Trolley Stop sells it....but at something like $12/ half gallon, I'm not a buyer. They also have $20 frozen chickens and $80 frozen turkeys
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#3124841 - 01/15/13 12:19 PM Re: Experimentation with Fermentation [Re: jb3]
WMAn
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 Originally Posted By: jb3
I did not know a person could sell raw milk or am I thinking raw milk is not pasteurized?

I believe if you are part of a csa you can buy a share of a cow and get it that way. Not 100% sure.


There are two ways raw milk can be sold in Tennessee through cow share programs and as Pet Milk which is marked not for human consumption.
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#3124845 - 01/15/13 12:20 PM Re: Experimentation with Fermentation [Re: TAFKAP]
WMAn
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 Originally Posted By: TAFKAP
Yeah, the Trolley Stop sells it....but at something like $12/ half gallon, I'm not a buyer. They also have $20 frozen chickens and $80 frozen turkeys


I paid $10 a gallon for mine, but I have since found two dairies offering cow share programs. Their programs cost $50-75 to join and $5 a gallon after that.
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