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#3124098 - 01/14/13 09:07 PM Sandy Hook Consipracy Video
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Not sure what to believe. I sure don't want to believe that political agenda is stronger..............

Sandy Hook Conspiracy Video
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#3124100 - 01/14/13 09:08 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Kirk]
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Has 3,000,000 views. The story has definitely changed multiple times. This video is prevalent on Facebook as well.
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#3124117 - 01/14/13 09:15 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: de novo]
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Yep I watch it earlier
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#3124149 - 01/14/13 09:25 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: hunter drew]
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Lots of questions arise when you see the video. A lot don't add up. I would like to think it was not staged...but why have their been SO MANY different versions of the story?!?
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#3124204 - 01/14/13 09:59 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: monsterbuck07]
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One word comes to mind.... PSYOP
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#3124313 - 01/15/13 12:08 AM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: monsterbuck07]
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 Originally Posted By: monsterbuck07
Lots of questions arise when you see the video. A lot don't add up. I would like to think it was not staged...but why have their been SO MANY different versions of the story?!?


A predictable result of having mutlple news organizations that emphasize speed over accuracy.
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#3124458 - 01/15/13 07:16 AM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Bambi Buster]
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Video has been removed already
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#3124460 - 01/15/13 07:17 AM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Bambi Buster]
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I have not watched the video and don't believe what happened at Sandy Hook was anything more than a crazy, evil man killing innocent children, something no gun laws can prevent, although someone with a gun might have prevented it. IMO, guns should be viewed more as potential solutions than as the problem. Let us not forget that September 11, 2001 was a mass murder committed first and foremost with box-cutters. Perhaps a good guy with a gun could have stopped a terrorist with a box-cutter, or a bad guy with a gun?

 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
 Originally Posted By: monsterbuck07
Lots of questions arise when you see the video. A lot don't add up. I would like to think it was not staged...but why have their been SO MANY different versions of the story?!?


A predictable result of having mutlple news organizations that emphasize speed over accuracy.

I would add the inaccuracies are also the result of propaganda "news" organizations being more about sensationalizing their agendas and members' phobias of guns. Rather than just report the news as it is, rather than just look for real solutions to the underlying problems, these organizations and politicians "shape" the news around their agendas, exploiting the tragedies more than genuinely showing any concern for the victims.

It's obvious their agenda is more anti-gun than anti-crime as they purposefully distort the news to make it fit their anti-gun agenda. By no means are these inaccuracies just the result of emphasizing speed over accuracy, although this also a factor, just not as great as the factor of "sensationalizing" their agenda.

Just like the new "gun control" bill happening now in New York. It has virtually nothing to do with preventing crime, and is in reality all about politics and anti-gun agenda. "News" of how it will not reduce crime is being suppressed, while "news" of how it could is being exploited to the forefront by these "news" agencies.

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#3124537 - 01/15/13 08:20 AM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Wes Parrish]
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I still wonder what happend to the guy who was in camo/tactical gear that they arrested in the woods on camera, and the guy that was cuffed near the building and put in a cop car on camera.
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#3124908 - 01/15/13 12:54 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
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The problem is we live in a nation where half of the population would suspect their government's involvement in this and the other half wouldn't care, if the end result was more gun control.
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#3124955 - 01/15/13 01:20 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: de novo]
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True,

Whether the story is true or not, the fact that we would even CONSIDER the idea that our own government would be involved in something like this is alarming. Even if they didn't have anything to do with the actual shooting, they were ready to capitalize on the event within hours. They had the protocol to put in motion and we're still seeing it play out.

There's no denying there are 'Crisis actors" and if we had a media, this alone would be a huge story. Who are they, what do they do and WHY do we have them?

The same people are seen in photos as lawyers, witnesses and concerned citizens in SO MANY recent events. VERY odd.
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#3124960 - 01/15/13 01:23 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
True,

Whether the story is true or not, the fact that we would even CONSIDER the idea that our own government would be involved in something like this is alarming. Even if they didn't have anything to do with the actual shooting, they were ready to capitalize on the event within hours. They had the protocol to put in motion and we're still seeing it play out.

There's no denying there are 'Crisis actors" and if we had a media, this alone would be a huge story. Who are they, what do they do and WHY do we have them?

The same people are seen in photos as lawyers, witnesses and concerned citizens in SO MANY recent events. VERY odd.



Simple answer, our government is setting us up to knock us over. Take advantage of every crisis. Have detailed agenda ready for implementation at the right moment.
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#3124966 - 01/15/13 01:26 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Rebel]
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Simple to say.
Harder to wrap your head around and
IMPOSSIBLE to get people to believe.

Up until they were loaded on the trains, Jews just kept saying "They are going to fix this and give us our homes back very soon. This is just a big misunderstanding"
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#3125031 - 01/15/13 02:06 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Crappie Luck]
Kirk
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Blind faith in Government will always end bad.

Just think if only a 1/4th of the Jews had defended their homes with deadly force. The outcome would have been far different.
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#3125033 - 01/15/13 02:08 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Kirk]
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OH........that's right........they had been disarmed.........
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#3125035 - 01/15/13 02:08 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Crappie Luck]
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some many things arent right, I lost my son and cry to this day when I talk about him. That occured in 1999. I watched these people, mothers, father and others not shed a tear why, Am I that big of a baby our was it all fake.

Edited by Stalkhunter (01/15/13 06:44 PM)
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#3125038 - 01/15/13 02:10 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Stalkhunter]
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I did not talk for days after my son died, he was going to be adopted by me. He did not have one once of my blood in him and It tore my heart out like nothing i ever want to go through again.
These people showed little to no emotions and guess what either did a lot of kids from the video


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#3125044 - 01/15/13 02:15 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
Up until they were loaded on the trains, Jews just kept saying "They are going to fix this and give us our homes back very soon. This is just a big misunderstanding"

That was so sadly true.
And the lessons from history appear to have been forgotten (if they were ever learned in the first place).

 Originally Posted By: Kirk
Just think if only a 1/4th of the Jews had defended their homes with deadly force. The outcome would have been far different.

Take that thought a step farther. If they had embraced the right to defend themselves with firearms, most probably World War II would have never have escalated to but a fraction to what it became. Those millions of people who didn't fight back emboldened the Nazi's to continue and escalate the events, perhaps even drawing in other nations (such as Japan and the United States). Would there have even been a World War II had only a small fraction of several million people forcefully resisted (with firearms) their disarmament and removal from their homes?

As others have pointed out, guns themselves are just another tool created by man. Little different than a car, a knife, a box-cutter, an airplane, or a golf club, with the use of the tool being determined by the user. As with any tool, it can be put to either good or bad use, although a good guy with a gun is typically the best if not only way to stop a bad guy with a gun.

Even the tragedy at Sandy Hook proved this:
Facing the good guys with the guns (in this case, the police), the bad guy killed himself. If only one school teacher had had a gun, perhaps no children would have been killed at Sandy Hook.

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#3125361 - 01/15/13 05:52 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Anyone who unquestioningly accepts this video at face value is no different from the sheep on the other side who lap up everything fed to them by the Kenyan and his cronies in the media and elsewhere. Both kinds of people are the reason that any hope for effective representative self-government is rapidly fading.
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#3125377 - 01/15/13 05:58 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Bambi Buster]
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 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
Anyone who unquestioningly accepts this video at face value is no different from the sheep on the other side who lap up everything fed to them by the Kenyan and his cronies in the media and elsewhere. Both kinds of people are the reason that any hope for effective representative self-government is rapidly fading.


I agree. Question everyone and everything.
Videos and conspiracies are easily made with a little editing and a lack of context.

Michael Moore has made quite a living at it ;\)
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#3125396 - 01/15/13 06:09 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
Anyone who unquestioningly accepts this video at face value is no different from the sheep on the other side who lap up everything fed to them by the Kenyan and his cronies in the media and elsewhere. Both kinds of people are the reason that any hope for effective representative self-government is rapidly fading.


I agree. Question everyone and everything.
Videos and conspiracies are easily made with a little editing and a lack of context.

Michael Moore has made quite a living at it ;\)


Indeed. Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor are tools that every thinking American should keep in his toolbox and use where appropriate.
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#3125439 - 01/15/13 06:27 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Bambi Buster]
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And....................Bambi Buster sends AndyW googling yet again.

You're well read, sir.
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#3125486 - 01/15/13 06:42 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Bambi Buster]
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 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
Anyone who unquestioningly accepts this video at face value is no different from the sheep on the other side who lap up everything fed to them by the Kenyan and his cronies in the media and elsewhere. Both kinds of people are the reason that any hope for effective representative self-government has faded.


Fixed it for ya.
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#3125608 - 01/15/13 07:38 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: AndyW]
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 Originally Posted By: AndyW
And....................Bambi Buster sends AndyW googling yet again.

You're well read, sir.


Thank you. I'm old and have had lots of time, sir. I'm also well-traveled. I hope I've made the best of both.
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#3125900 - 01/15/13 10:10 PM Re: Sandy Hook Consipracy Video [Re: Bambi Buster]
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 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
Anyone who unquestioningly accepts this video at face value is no different from the sheep on the other side who lap up everything fed to them by the Kenyan and his cronies in the media and elsewhere. Both kinds of people are the reason that any hope for effective representative self-government is rapidly fading.


I agree. Question everyone and everything.
Videos and conspiracies are easily made with a little editing and a lack of context.

Michael Moore has made quite a living at it ;\)


Indeed. Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor are tools that every thinking American should keep in his toolbox and use where appropriate.


You cannot fix stupid, ignorance is bliss and the blind cannot see. All relative to the issue.

Assuming ALL facts the mass media portrayed are true, then all we have to go by are the historical facts right?
DDT and C02 are two prime examples of mass media propaganda winning over the masses (in these cases, the science). I hate it for the children and families, but what we dont know hurts us more in these cases!

Worse case scenario...people who watched the video second guessed what they were originally told and did some kind of research.
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