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#3117610 - 01/10/13 11:14 AM turkey guns
deerhunter10
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what gun and choke are yal shooting? I shoot a Mossberg 835 with a rhino choke then my back up is a stoeger m2000 with a jelly head choke but will probably get a rhino choke for it soon. I shoot hevi shot magnum blend out of both.
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#3117650 - 01/10/13 11:42 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: deerhunter10]
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Browning pump 10 ga. With a kicks. 690 and handloads, federal hw #7s, Winchester lead, hevi shot. All depends on the situation.
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#3117738 - 01/10/13 12:47 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Rockhound]
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NEF pardner pump 12 gauge with xx full accu choke and Winchester supreme 3" 5 or 6 shot. Comfortable at 20 yd but have killed em out to 45.
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#3117757 - 01/10/13 01:01 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: catman529]
Andy S.
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My dedicated turkey gun is a 1999 Model Remington 870 Special Purpose 3.5" in Mossy Oak Break-Up camo. It has a 23" bbl sporting an Indian Creek .665 choke. I have so many fond memories of this gun that it would take a boat load of money for me to separate with it. It has been flawless over the last 13 springs; wish I could say the same about myself in the turkey woods. \:\)
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#3117775 - 01/10/13 01:09 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Andy S.]
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nothing like great memories with a gun cant put a price on that!
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#3117798 - 01/10/13 01:28 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: deerhunter10]
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Browning bps 12 with the factory xx full choke, never saw a need to buy another since I have kills out to 60 yards with it
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#3118232 - 01/10/13 06:43 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: easy45]
Benelli 4 Life
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Benelli SBE 2 with a Jellyhead choke and 3.5in Winchester Extended Range #6s.
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#3118266 - 01/10/13 07:07 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Benelli 4 Life]
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Stoeger m2000
Sumtoy 650 choke
Hevi magblends 3"

Stoeger m3500
Hevi Shot 656 choke
Hevi #7 and Magblends 3.5"

Hope to have a Super Black Eagle2 buy next season
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#3118334 - 01/10/13 07:55 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: REN]
Gravey
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Mossberg 835, jellyhead choke, and 3 1/2" Hevi Shot Magblends
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#3118399 - 01/10/13 08:25 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Gravey]
TheAirMan
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835, Gobblin Thunder Choke, 3 1/2 Winchester Supreme.
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#3118684 - 01/11/13 04:07 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: TheAirMan]
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3 in 12 ga 870. don't know what choke. remington turkey loads #5's. or 1/8-1/16 oz crappie jigs \:D
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#3118906 - 01/11/13 08:39 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: stik]
muddyboots
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870 SPS-T Super mag with rhino .660. It ahs an eotech atop of her and shoots nitros 4 x 5 x 7 hevishot 2 7/16 ounce loads.
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#3119023 - 01/11/13 09:50 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: stik]
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sure is nice trading in the gun for a fishing pole!
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#3119061 - 01/11/13 10:11 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: deerhunter10]
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Muddyboots you got a pic of that rig? Also what's the barrel length and how does she shoot?

Everyone said the 2 7/16 loads didn't do to good in the remington so was just wondering.

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#3119076 - 01/11/13 10:24 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: chrmayo]
Andy S.
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 Originally Posted By: chrmayo
Everyone said the 2 7/16 loads didn't do to good in the remington so was just wondering.
My 870 SP setup mentioned above shoots the H517 ammo (2 7/16 oz) like a dream. Good dense patterns with little to no voids in it. I have been thoroughly impressed with these shells in my gun. The only negative is target shooting as the 2 7/16 ounce loads kill on both ends when shooting at paper. Not so much, when a long beard is the target.
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#3119094 - 01/11/13 10:38 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: Andy S.]
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my good friend his back up gun is a 870 and shoots the 2 7/16 loads like a dream also he is shooting it with a jelly head.
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#3119100 - 01/11/13 10:44 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: deerhunter10]
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Rem 870sm with .675 Rhino and 2-7/16oz H13 #6's or 2.5oz 5x8 tss handloads.
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#3119210 - 01/11/13 12:27 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Andy S.]
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Benelli sbe2 .665 jelly head choke 3/1/2 4x5x7 nitros
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#3119271 - 01/11/13 01:42 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: chrmayo]
muddyboots
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 Originally Posted By: chrmayo
Muddyboots you got a pic of that rig? Also what's the barrel length and how does she shoot?

Everyone said the 2 7/16 loads didn't do to good in the remington so was just wondering.


Ill take a pic of it and post it. I bought some of the 2 7/16 loads by mistake and when i shot the first one i thought wow that kicked more but the pattern was awesome. After some investigation i figured out what had happenned. I posted a pattern last year and a guy said i was lying so i try not to do that anymore but its bad!
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#3119281 - 01/11/13 01:51 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: muddyboots]
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Here she is!
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#3119315 - 01/11/13 02:10 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: muddyboots]
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I might have to try them in mine with my .660 jellyhead
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#3119345 - 01/11/13 02:48 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: chrmayo]
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I've hunted with my 870 up until this year. I'm changing up this year with the Kick's Gobblin Thunder in my SBE II. 3 1/2" #5's
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#3119369 - 01/11/13 03:11 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Relentless]
deerhunter10
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that gun is supper nice turkey killing machine!
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#3119433 - 01/11/13 04:12 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: deerhunter10]
Hunt 365
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Re. 870 SuperMag, .660 Jellyhead Choke, 3 in HeviShot #6's (the 3 1/2 in shells tend to jam)
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#3119678 - 01/11/13 07:30 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Relentless]
Spurhunter
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870sm, 24 inch, JH, Leupold NWTF scope, Hevi 6's 3.5inch.
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#3119727 - 01/11/13 08:00 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: deerhunter10]
timberjack86
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Mossberg 835,undertaker choke, 3 inch hevi shot magnublends.
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#3119877 - 01/11/13 09:12 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: easy45]
Layne
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 Originally Posted By: easy45
Browning bps 12 with the factory xx full choke, never saw a need to buy another since I have kills out to 60 yards with it


I agree, the factory choke in the BPS works as well as any in that gun.

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#3120198 - 01/12/13 08:12 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: deerhunter10]
muddyboots
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 Originally Posted By: deerhunter10
that gun is supper nice turkey killing machine!


thanks! I m pretty partial too it!
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#3121244 - 01/12/13 09:44 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: muddyboots]
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NEF single shot with a standard fixed full choke has been my all time favorite turkey gun shooting Kent 2 3/4, 1 1/2 ounce of #5 lead pheasant loads.

I killed 2 long beards this fall with my M2 20 gauge shooting Hevi shot and the factory full choke. The M2 20 is my second gun of choice.

After turkey hunting with these 2 guns, I don't want to ever use a repeating 12 gauge again.
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#3122008 - 01/13/13 02:25 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Uncle Jesse]
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Mossberg 835,Jellyhead, Nitro Bob's 3" (there is no substitute)
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#3122428 - 01/13/13 07:08 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: sellsman11]
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Remington 870 supermag, .660 jellyhead, 3.5" nitro's.
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#3122465 - 01/13/13 07:29 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: TheAirMan]
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870 Supermag, Hevishot choke.662, Hevishot mag blend
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#3123143 - 01/14/13 10:47 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: PinchPoint]
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870 SM, .660 jelly head, Leupold scope, 3 1/2 in. Hevi 13 7s.
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#3124751 - 01/15/13 11:13 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: TheAirMan]
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Factory job-Rem 870 Turkey Gun, 24" barrel, with factory turkey choke. Been doing the job for 15 years now!

Edited by oldmanelrod (01/15/13 11:27 AM)

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#3130590 - 01/19/13 09:58 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: oldmanelrod]
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mossberg 20 gauge with cheap primos tightwad choke with hevi #6 one killing machine, ive taken LOTS of birds with the little twenty

Edited by knightrider (01/19/13 09:59 AM)
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#3131668 - 01/20/13 10:26 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: knightrider]
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Just bought the Mossberg 835 Turkey Thug... Fired up
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#3132973 - 01/21/13 11:43 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: G8rntn]
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870 SuperMAG,Hevi choke, 3.5 inch Hevi-13 magblend, Williams Fire sights
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#3133050 - 01/21/13 12:52 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: droptine]
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I copied REN's Stoeger M3500 setup last year. It's sweet.

Stoeger m3500
Hevi Shot 656 choke
Hevi Magblends 3.5"
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#3133052 - 01/21/13 12:55 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Vermin93]
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 Originally Posted By: Vermin93
I copied REN's Stoeger M3500 setup last year. It's sweet.

Stoeger m3500
Hevi Shot 656 choke
Hevi Magblends 3.5"


NICE! that set up will rock a birds world!
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#3138678 - 01/25/13 10:17 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: REN]
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#3138719 - 01/25/13 10:32 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: TeamMainStreet]
Lawrence
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.656 Hevi Shot Choke
Benelli Super Nova 24" Steady Grip
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#3138733 - 01/25/13 10:44 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: muddyboots]
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 Originally Posted By: muddyboots


Here she is!

Nice Choke
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#3145893 - 01/30/13 04:10 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Lawrence]
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835 with a Mad Super Max choke with 3.5 magblends or 3" Extended Range 6 but I have a 20 ga. 870 in the works and hope to try some TSS out of it before season.
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#3146953 - 01/31/13 01:40 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: TheAirMan]
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Browning Gold Hunter 3 1/2 with an Indian Creek Tube. Use Hevi Magnum blend for the kill shot and kent 7 shot to follow.

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#3146975 - 01/31/13 02:03 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: chadperr]
REN
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why do you need a follow up shot if you have a kill shot? also if you did by chance miss why would you want crappier ammo as the 2nd shot rather then the good ammo you used to pattern with??


I never understood the "cheaper" ammo as the follow up.
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#3146986 - 01/31/13 02:14 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: REN]
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 Originally Posted By: REN
why would you want crappier ammo as the 2nd shot

Had to chuckle right there REN...agree 100%. Reminded me of a bird I called in for a guy years ago in the lowcountry of SC. I told him he really needed to pattern his gun with the right shells before we went but he swore up and down that, "With these'here Kent shells if it flies, it dies."

22 yards away that bird stood when he pulled the trigger and that gobbler flew off just as fast and strong as any I've ever laid eyes upon. He proceeded to throw every last one of those Kent shells into a slough...all I could do was shake my head and chuckle.

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#3146991 - 01/31/13 02:21 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Boll Weevil]
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HA, I will shoot kent at ducks but id rather throw a rock then use their turkey shells lol


My point is you put a lot of money and time into patterning your gun with the HEVI shot....if by chance you miss why would you not shoot a 2nd shot with the best ammo you have AND use the ammo that puts out the best pattern/downrange power?

I know plenty of guys that use the "follow up with #4's" logic but i truly never understood why you would not want to use the best stuff at all times.
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#3147016 - 01/31/13 02:46 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: REN]
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completely agree ren makes no sense to me either.
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#3147018 - 01/31/13 02:47 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: REN]
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 Originally Posted By: REN
why do you need a follow up shot if you have a kill shot?
Easy enough. Who has never missed a turkey? Not ONE serious turkey hunter that I know of.

 Originally Posted By: REN
also if you did by chance miss why would you want crappier ammo as the 2nd shot rather then the good ammo you used to pattern with??

I never understood the "cheaper" ammo as the follow up.
Good question and I see where you are coming from. I shoot Nitros as my first shot and follow up with MagBlends as my subsequent shots if need be (rare, but it happens). While a little cheaper, I do not consider the MagBlends to be much inferior overall to the Nitros. I have patterned both and both are wicked out of my setup. Furthermore, I do it more for the fact that I cannot stomach buying more than one box of Nitros at a time and loading them up KNOWING that if I have to take a follow up shot that it will be lower probability of me connecting (as he is fleeing in a hastily manner), thus the thought of burning a "cheaper" MagBlend shell or two is better than burning one to two "made in heaven" Nitros. While I know the savings in cost is nothing to write home about, it is just the approach I have taken since I started shooting the "made in heaven" Nitros. My savings over time is negligible at best, so it is more a matter of principle than anything else for me.
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#3147025 - 01/31/13 02:55 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Andy S.]
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Another thing is I cherish my Nitros more if you will, mainly because I have been so impressed with them, and furthermore because I could see them going out of business before I could see Environ-Metal Inc folding. At the end of the day, I just try my best to save my Nitros for my highest percentage kill shot, hopefully my first and only shot, but that's not always the case.
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#3147058 - 01/31/13 03:27 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Andy S.]
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On the other hand, Andy, you could just use a really cheap "squirrel" load for the chamber, knowing that under 35 yards it gets the job done just fine. Then save those expensive shells for just when needed. \:D

Over the years I killed many turkeys with the same shells I hunted squirrels, and a few with #7 1/2 dove loads. Get them up close, and the gun and shell matter little.

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#3147157 - 01/31/13 04:55 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Wes Parrish]
Andy S.
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Very true Wes, however, I really LOVE the fact that few turkeys these days flop at all, and at most, only a few times after the shot. This has been my experience since switching to HTL shot. I never experienced that with lead shot (#4s), even with close shots, over a ten year period. I also like having the extra "umph" the hot HTL loads add to bust one that is hung up strutting at 45-50 yards IF NEED BE. I much prefer shooting a turkey between the 30 and 40 yard mark (prob. 75% of my kills), but I am not the turkey killing machine like some claim to be, that kills all of their turkeys under 35 yards. I am not referring to you, but I read of so many turkey hunters online that make that claim. I know that "how much one flops" matters little in the end, but I have grown accustomed to pulling the trigger and very little floppage happening, if you know what I mean. \:\) It is by no means the right way or only way, but it is my tried and true way and what I have the most confidence in, thus the reason I do what I do.

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#3147178 - 01/31/13 05:25 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Andy S.]
REN
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Look I'm not turning this to a "this ammo is what you should use" debate. Just saying if you are shooting good ammo why put lesser ammo as the 2nd? If I need a 2nd shot I want it to count
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#3147193 - 01/31/13 05:42 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: REN]
Andy S.
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 Originally Posted By: REN
Look I'm not turning this to a "this ammo is what you should use" debate.
Who is doing this? Regardless, I agree with you on that, to each their own as far as what they prefer. One should shoot what one has confidence in.

 Originally Posted By: REN
If I need a 2nd shot I want it to count
Me too, thus why I shoot MagBlends. I believe in them in my setup, thus the same logic applies.


Edited by Andy S. (01/31/13 05:44 PM)
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#3147239 - 01/31/13 06:20 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Andy S.]
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I'm not referring to you Andy (or anyone really) I just want to be clear before it goes to that.

I shoot magblends an my set up loves them. If I were to need a 2nd shot i wouldn't want it to be a Winchester HV I'd want it to be a magblend because that is the optimum shell for my set up
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#3147549 - 01/31/13 10:03 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: deerhunter10]
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I shoot the magblends as well but I do at times have my second shot as a 4 shot, my theory is that the second shot will be at a bird fleeing so at a further distance I prefer a larger shot...

I will say that when I have missed I have hesitated on the second shot just because it takes a second for my brain to comprehend that I just missed and that that turkey isn't flopping around on the ground... \:o

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#3147801 - 02/01/13 06:37 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: Andy S.]
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 Originally Posted By: Andy S.
Very true Wes, however, I really LOVE the fact that few turkeys these days flop at all, and at most, only a few times after the shot. This has been my experience since switching to HTL shot. I never experienced that with lead shot (#4s), even with close shots, over a ten year period.


Almost all my turkeys flop. I remember one that didn't flop at all until I was already headed back to the truck with him over my shoulder. Even still, I'd rather shoot Kent shells than to throw rocks \:o
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#3147857 - 02/01/13 07:41 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: Uncle Jesse]
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actually looking back at all my pattern tests, the kents were not too bad for lead....the Hornady shells on the other hand were pretty pathetic
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#3148068 - 02/01/13 10:05 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: REN]
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I usually dont miss on the 1st. I am confident out to 60. Shot one last year at 74, even though I would rather them be much closer. I pattern with both and they pattern similar, the hevi is just a tiny bit better, by no means is the kent Crappy in my book. If I used all kent I would still be very confident.
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#3148132 - 02/01/13 10:59 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: Andy S.]
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 Originally Posted By: Andy S.
Very true Wes, however, I really LOVE the fact that few turkeys these days flop at all, and at most, only a few times after the shot. This has been my experience since switching to HTL shot.

Like you, I have also experienced less "flopping" since switching over to HTL shells. Just saying at the ranges I actually kill most of my turkeys (even now having a gun/shells combo capable of making high-probability shots out to 50 yards), I'd go home each season with about as many turkeys no matter that kind of shells I had loaded.

This is in part because I more greatly enjoy getting them up close, watching them strut, hearing them drum, etc., and am usually not eager to shoot one just because he steps within the potential range of my turkey gun. The majority are still killed under 30 yards, and I think the main reason more hunters aren't killing more birds up closer is simply because they are so quick to shoot once a bird barely enters their guns' potential.

It may very well be I'm often more interested in "working" a bird up close than just killing him. \:\)
Besides, if I'm going to be using these expensive shells, I need to get as much as possible out of the hunt!

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#3148156 - 02/01/13 11:22 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: chadperr]
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 Originally Posted By: chadperr
I am confident out to 60. Shot one last year at 74, even though I would rather them be much closer.

I've played around quite a bit with various HTL loads and chokes, but haven't yet found anything I felt good with beyond about 50 yards. Am currently mainly using the H13 Mag Blends and H13 straight 7's.

I know a single pellet might have enough energy to kill one farther, but once there becomes more chance of putting a single pellet in a gobbler's gut than his head, I just don't feel right about taking that shot, since the bird is more likely to die unrecovered, than for me to walk out of the woods with him. For my set-up (yours may be different), that seems to be somewhere around 50 to 55 yards, so I'm trying to limit quick visually "guessed" shot distances to 45 yards, and rangefinder confirmed distances to 50 yards. But that's just me, and I'm probably not as good at guessing distances as some, and may not have as much a long-range turkey gun as some of you.

But if I were to fire at 4 birds at 70 yards, I'd fully expect to go home with one of them. But I'd also figure a couple of those die a few days later from having a gut wound (to me, a sad and wasteful loss that was just unnecessary). Would just rather come back another day, even if it's next year, and try for a higher-probability opportunity, and/or defer that opportunity to some other hunter. So even with the turkey gun/shells/setup I'm using, still try to limit shots to no more than about 45 to 50 yards.

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#3148157 - 02/01/13 11:22 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: Wes Parrish]
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As an aside, for those hunting more in wooded areas than fields, having a tightly choked long-range performing turkey gun can often be more a problem than a benefit, such as when you're unlikely to even see a turkey beyond 35 yards, and your first sighting is going to be nothing more than his red head coming up like a periscope over the slope some 25 to 30 yards away.
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#3148169 - 02/01/13 11:28 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: Wes Parrish]
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74 yards, geez im not sure i could even see his head that far way lol.
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#3148178 - 02/01/13 11:34 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: chadperr
I am confident out to 60. Shot one last year at 74, even though I would rather them be much closer.

I've played around quite a bit with various HTL loads and chokes, but haven't yet found anything I felt good with beyond about 50 yards. Am currently mainly using the H13 Mag Blends and H13 straight 7's.

I know a single pellet might have enough energy to kill one farther, but once there becomes more chance of putting a single pellet in a gobbler's gut than his head, I just don't feel right about taking that shot, since the bird is more likely to die unrecovered, than for me to walk out of the woods with him. For my set-up (yours may be different), that seems to be somewhere around 50 to 55 yards, so I'm trying to limit quick visually "guessed" shot distances to 45 yards, and rangefinder confirmed distances to 50 yards. But that's just me, and I'm probably not as good at guessing distances as some, and may not have as much a long-range turkey gun as some of you.

But if I were to fire at 4 birds at 70 yards, I'd fully expect to go home with one of them. But I'd also figure a couple of those die a few days later from having a gut wound (to me, a sad and wasteful loss that was just unnecessary). Would just rather come back another day, even if it's next year, and try for a higher-probability opportunity, and/or defer that opportunity to some other hunter. So even with the turkey gun/shells/setup I'm using, still try to limit shots to no more than about 45 to 50 yards.


Very well put....I would be ashamed to kno I shoot at one at 74yds much less talk about it...however I have killed plenty in the past when I was younger. The older I get the more I enjoy hunting them...prolly use the bow some this year just to enjoy a different experience.
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#3148186 - 02/01/13 11:39 AM Re: turkey guns [Re: Roost 1]
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 Originally Posted By: Roost 1
The older I get the more I enjoy hunting them...
x 2

Yep, at some point, I believe most turkey hunters will find it more about the hunt, than the kill, and the circumstances of the kill matter more than whether there is a kill.

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#3148315 - 02/01/13 02:02 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Roost 1]
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Its not like I sit there with a range finder and say wait till they hit 75 yards then shoot. I hunt some pretty steep stuff and unless im set up where I have checked distances then its just a guess until i shoot. Not to mention when I pattern my gun. I will usually take 2 or 3 shots at 70 and I always have 6 to 10 pellets at least in the kill zone on a turkey target. 60 is the distance that I feel confident knocking them down a large majority of the time, but its not too far off 70.
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#3148324 - 02/01/13 02:16 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: Roost 1
The older I get the more I enjoy hunting them...
x 2

Yep, at some point, I believe most turkey hunters will find it more about the hunt, than the kill, and the circumstances of the kill matter more than whether there is a kill.


When you work one from over 200 out and hang up, if I think I can make a kill shot I take it if not Ill keep working them or try and move toward them. I have only misse 2 birds in the last 6 years, its not like im not killing the ones I shoot at. If I didnt enjoy the hunt I'd just go out with a rifle. Just because I like to shoot a bird when I hunt, doesnt mean I dont really enjoy the process.

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#3148360 - 02/01/13 02:48 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: chadperr]
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All of my turkeys always flop no matter how close or far or what they got shot with. Only remember one that didn't flop and it flopped violently when I touched it. Flopping means they are dead. It is reflexes. Every animal flops some when shot in the head.

I think the modern turkey guns/chokes/shells should be able to make a good clean shot at 50-55 yards. Anything beyond that may be killable but it sure is a risk. I prefer mine 45 yards in. And I am a turkey hunter, and I like to kill when I go, so if he is in range and its a clear shot I'm shooting him, which is 45 yards and closer.

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#3148374 - 02/01/13 03:02 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: woodsman87]
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I have taken several shots that If i realized the distance that I would not have shot even though I did kill them. But I have also not shot at a couple thinking they were too far then to check and they were well within range. Im not carrying a rangefinder with me, just taking an educated guess and sometimes Im fooled.

The couple I have missed over the last few years have not been becouase of distance but trying to make a shot from a weird angle.

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#3148377 - 02/01/13 03:07 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: REN]
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 Originally Posted By: REN
why do you need a follow up shot if you have a kill shot? also if you did by chance miss why would you want crappier ammo as the 2nd shot rather then the good ammo you used to pattern with??


I never understood the "cheaper" ammo as the follow up.


I would personally rather have a more open pattern at a moving turkey than a super tight pattern. If the turkey is standing still i throw a softball at him if hes on the run afterwards i throw a basketball at him.

I dont see what doesn't make sense
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#3148451 - 02/01/13 04:38 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Rockhound]
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Then why not throw a basketball at him to start with?? If he is on the run chances are he is further then the first shot so that softball is now a basketball anyways.

Again just don't make sense to me. If it does you and you like the idea roll on.
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#3148459 - 02/01/13 04:59 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: REN]
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I love my tight pattern. Just shoot it like a rifle and no worries.
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#3149165 - 02/02/13 01:25 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: chadperr]
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 Originally Posted By: Roost 1
I would be ashamed to know I shot at one at 74yds much less talk about it...


 Originally Posted By: chadperr
Its not like I sit there with a range finder and say wait till they hit 75 yards then shoot. I hunt some pretty steep stuff and unless im set up where I have checked distances then its just a guess until i shoot. Not to mention when I pattern my gun. I will usually take 2 or 3 shots at 70 and I always have 6 to 10 pellets at least in the kill zone on a turkey target. 60 is the distance that I feel confident knocking them down a large majority of the time, but its not too far off 70.


I agree Roost. Embarrassing. I always hear about these guys that pattern shoot at 70 yards but I've never seen anyone do it or post a pic of a pattern. I know a guy (known liar) that claims his gun puts 150 pellets in a 10" circle and kills em dead at 80 yards. Whatever man. You want to impress me learn how to get them inside 40 yards.

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#3149213 - 02/02/13 03:08 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Spurhunter]
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Spurhunter I hear ya man. I work with a guy just like that.
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#3149241 - 02/02/13 03:48 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: chadperr]
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 Originally Posted By: chadperr
I usually dont miss on the 1st. I am confident out to 60. Shot one last year at 74, even though I would rather them be much closer. I pattern with both and they pattern similar, the hevi is just a tiny bit better, by no means is the kent Crappy in my book. If I used all kent I would still be very confident.

74yds?


 Originally Posted By: chadperr
Its not like I sit there with a range finder and say wait till they hit 75 yards then shoot. I hunt some pretty steep stuff and unless im set up where I have checked distances then its just a guess until i shoot. Not to mention when I pattern my gun. I will usually take 2 or 3 shots at 70 and I always have 6 to 10 pellets at least in the kill zone on a turkey target. 60 is the distance that I feel confident knocking them down a large majority of the time, but its not too far off 70.

No range finder but 74 yds? Sounds like over estimation or atleast one could hope
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#3149245 - 02/02/13 03:53 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: ImThere]
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i have patterned my gun at 70. Does that make me a nut? LOL
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#3149255 - 02/02/13 04:04 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: muddyboots]
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im not scared to shoot one at 70.. would I want to? well no.. but sometimes those old stubborn long beards don't do what you want them to do so you gotta reach out and touch them. my longest shot is 59 yards. but most are within 40 yards. call me a nut or whatever you want to. but I know where my gun hits and I know my ability. I suppose im a nut to.
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#3149262 - 02/02/13 04:15 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: deerhunter10]
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 Originally Posted By: deerhunter10
but sometimes those old stubborn long beards don't do what you want them to do so you gotta reach out and touch them.


The way I look at this is the ol gobbler won on that day and lives to be hunted another day...I have too much respect for the animal to risk wounding by taking a LONG shot...Like I said earlier, the older I get the nore I enjoy HUNTING turkeys.
74yds IMHO is just too far.....
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#3149277 - 02/02/13 04:30 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Roost 1]
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Hunt about 400 acres of clear cut and 70 yards dont seem as far. LOL
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#3149281 - 02/02/13 04:36 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Roost 1]
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"I know my ability". You mean "I hope the magic pellet hits the magic spot". There are some great turkey hunters on this site that I admire, then there are some clowns that remind me why Old Gobbler has a rule that you can't even mention shots over 40 yards. One guy says 45, one says 50, next thing you know you got guys with magic guns shooting birds at 70 plus yards. It's a sad commentary on hunters in general. No wonder non hunters think we are a bunch of blood thirsty fools shooting at anything that moves.
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#3149435 - 02/02/13 06:47 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: Spurhunter]
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I know my ability that means I shoot my gun over and over to see where it is hitting at different ranges. I will probably never shoot one at 70 yards but I know me and my gun can do it. you have no right to judge my ethics. I am a very ethical hunter that take shots I know I can make. I have a whole lot of respect for deer and turkey and every animal I hunt. so im not going to put myself in that position to wound that animal. a 70 yard shot is not out of the question with the right gun, choke, and ammo. magnum blends or nitros are awesome and I have complete confidence in my set up. like I said my furthest shot is 59 yards. the next furthest shot after that is 44. and I ranged it. all the others have been within 40 yards and in. and im not a "blood thirsty fool that shoots anything that moves" I only shoot long beards and mature deer and some does. so you can take your negative attitude some where else.
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#3149514 - 02/02/13 07:37 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: deerhunter10]
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Last year was the first year I shot one over 34yds (41yds) and he happen to be lucky #100

If I can't hear them drumming they are too far! I don't like it when my bead covers more then the head if that makes sense
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#3149538 - 02/02/13 07:53 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: REN]
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I can't hear them drum but, I can hear the spit.
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#3149543 - 02/02/13 07:56 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: REN]
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 Originally Posted By: REN
Last year was the first year I shot one over 34yds (41yds) and he happen to be lucky #100

If I can't hear them drumming they are too far! I don't like it when my bead covers more then the head if that makes sense
x2 I agree. I want to feel like I called him up.
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#3150833 - 02/03/13 10:18 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: timberjack86]
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Oh good another argument and more name calling..........
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#3152152 - 02/04/13 09:39 PM Re: turkey guns [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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we are talking about a bird right, by hunting turkeys we control the numbers correct.
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