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#3116259 - 01/09/13 01:09 PM Webiste to find past county deer records?
pressfit
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Do any of you know of a website that has listed the biggest deer killed by county in Tn.? A guy was telling me about it last night but didnt know the websites name..thanks!
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#3116269 - 01/09/13 01:14 PM Re: Webiste to find past county deer records? [Re: pressfit]
Boll Weevil
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It's tennregistry.com
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#3116273 - 01/09/13 01:16 PM Re: Webiste to find past county deer records? [Re: Boll Weevil]
pressfit
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thanks!
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#3116331 - 01/09/13 02:01 PM Re: Webiste to find past county deer records? [Re: pressfit]
Wes Parrish
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Let me preface this with:

1) I believe we have an overall healthier deer herd post-1998 with either a 2 or a 3-buck limit, and more liberal doe-harvest opportunities, than we had prior to 1998 (when we had an 11-buck limit and relatively little opportunity to kill a doe).

2) I believe the growing widespread practice of QDM is providing much more good than harm.

3) We are harvesting more "older" bucks now in TN than at anytime in the past.

4) There may be more bucks NOT listed on this registry than listed, and this registry is rife with errors, such as double-listing the names of some some WMA's, then having different hunters on the lists (i.e. look at the two listings for President's Island WMA and/or Land Between the Lakes vs. LBL). And if you look at the TN listings for Pope & Young or Boone & Crockett, you will find many listed there that are not listed on the TN Deer Registry.

5) But, the "trend" data on this registry should still be "good".


THAT SAID,

WHY are so many of the "top-end" highest scoring bucks (particularly among the typicals) harvested PRIOR to 1998?

Wouldn't it be a reasonable expectation that we now produce MORE of these largest antlered bucks NOW, than during the 1970's, 80's, and 90's?

Or could it be that antler high-grading (in this case, the skewed killing off of the largest antlered young bucks) is a much bigger problem than many have thought?

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#3116344 - 01/09/13 02:11 PM Re: Webiste to find past county deer records? [Re: Wes Parrish]
Wes Parrish
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And just to add a little more fuel to the high-grading fire, it remains remarkable that the TN State Record Typical was taken in 1959. More remarkable in that this wasn't a particularly high top-end score compared to many other neighboring states' top typicals. Add to this, our all-time top typical came from a poor soil mountainous region (Cumberland County), rather than the rich bottomland agricultural areas that are supposed to grow the bigger ones.

Also note TN's #2 Typical was killed in 1979.
#3 in 1995.
#4 in 1978.
#5 in 1996.

We have more "older" bucks than ever before, right?
Our statewide deer herd is "healthier" than ever before, right?
So why are we not producing more of those really high-scoring bucks?

Could it be, that we made a change from non-selectively just shooting ANY buck with antlers, to focusing most on selectively killing off the largest antlered YOUNG bucks, which in turn is leaving mainly the smallest antlered of bucks to survive to maturity?

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#3116370 - 01/09/13 02:26 PM Re: Webiste to find past county deer records? [Re: Wes Parrish]
Andy S.
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
There may be more bucks NOT listed on this registry than listed.....
I believe this to be true, especially in my neck of the woods.
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#3116374 - 01/09/13 02:28 PM Re: Webiste to find past county deer records? [Re: Wes Parrish]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
But, the "trend" data on this registry should still be "good". \:\)

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#3116389 - 01/09/13 02:36 PM Re: Webiste to find past county deer records? [Re: Andy S.]
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 Originally Posted By: Andy S.
 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
There may be more bucks NOT listed on this registry than listed.....
I believe this to be true, especially in my neck of the woods.

Agree. I almost added a comment like this on my original post but figured all he was asking for was website vs. my opinion of what data might actually be found there. \:\) I do wish there were more up-to-date data even if it were somehow "deidentified" to maintain privacy...maybe just score and county. Would be great to see.

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#3116394 - 01/09/13 02:39 PM Re: Webiste to find past county deer records? [Re: Boll Weevil]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Boll Weevil
I almost added a comment like this on my original post but figured all he was asking for was website vs. my opinion of what data might actually be found there. \:\) I do wish there were more up-to-date data even if it were somehow "deidentified" to maintain privacy...maybe just score and county. Would be great to see.

And I almost didn't comment since the original question was answered. \:\)
But seemed a great spot to stir up Wesley's High Grading Theory!

Don't have anything in front of me, but I believe a long-standing statewide NON-TYPICAL from Washington County is not in the TN Deer Registry. This particular deer would probably still be in the top three, and it came from the poor soil mountains of the Cherokee National Forest back in the 80's.

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#3116499 - 01/09/13 03:57 PM Re: Webiste to find past county deer records? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Wes,

Lots of huge bucks killed from say 1990 and before in TN and here where I live in AL. Of course, we probably had 5 deer psm or less. The low densities back then could have and probably had as much to do as any high grading. Just my opinion, which is just that. \:\)

I actually see the reverse anyway. I'm seeing more and bigger bucks every year. It seems there are more 150+ killed around here year after year.
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