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#3116218 - 01/09/13 12:49 PM Re: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns [Re: Kirk]
Vermin93
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I would love to see the looks on the faces of some of those Democrat union boys in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Ohio when they hear about this. They are probably loving that Obama vote that they cast more than ever.
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#3116225 - 01/09/13 12:52 PM Re: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns [Re: Kirk]
lpo1981
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I figured this would happen and voting on gun control would never be proposed as a bill in front of congress to vote on, cause they know it will never pass.. If he does an executive order to enforce a gun ban then we are definitely well on our way to a dictatorship. And Obama will be much worse than hitler ever thought about being.. Every [censored] one of these politicians need to go, they could give a careless about the people. They are all in this for there own agenda and personal gains.. Really sickens me the way this country has turned out! I fear not for myself and what may happen but worry about my young children and what the future holds for them..
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#3116237 - 01/09/13 12:58 PM Re: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns [Re: lpo1981]
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gun owners must stand up no one can be on the fence about the issue we gotta stand united. or some very bad things are coming there already coming but we gotta put up a fight....
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#3116242 - 01/09/13 01:00 PM Re: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns [Re: deerhunter10]
lpo1981
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 Originally Posted By: deerhunter10
gun owners must stand up no one can be on the fence about the issue we gotta stand united. or some very bad things are coming there already coming but we gotta put up a fight....


I completely agree with this.. Problem is though if he signs an executive order then no one has a say so in anything.. What he signs and says goes. Then the registering and confiscation begins...

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#3116257 - 01/09/13 01:06 PM Re: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns [Re: lpo1981]
ferg
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It will be cold day in .... everyone must remember why we even have a Second Amendment - ;\)

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#3116260 - 01/09/13 01:09 PM Re: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns [Re: lpo1981]
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But dose an Executive order trump the 2nd amendment of the Constitution?
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#3116263 - 01/09/13 01:10 PM Re: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns [Re: ferg]
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 Originally Posted By: ferg
It will be cold day in .... everyone must remember why we even have a Second Amendment - ;\)

ferg....



Exactly...for just such an occasion. It's not the first time this has happened.
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#3116266 - 01/09/13 01:13 PM Re: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns [Re: MUP]
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
 Originally Posted By: ferg
It will be cold day in .... everyone must remember why we even have a Second Amendment - ;\)

ferg....



Exactly...for just such an occasion. It's not the first time this has happened.


Nope and it looks like it NEEDS to happen agin on a much larger scale ....... and sooner than later IMO !!!!!!
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#3116268 - 01/09/13 01:13 PM Re: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns [Re: deerhunter10]
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Guys use your heads.

Obama CANNOT ban guns or take your guns though Executive Order.

BUT

He CAN order ALL high cap magainzes banned, that incules AR-15, Glock, Browning, Ruger, Springfield handguns.

He CAN hit online ammo sales and ever limit how many rounds each American citizen can buy a month.

Gun shows already come under firearms laws and there are some things Obama can do to limit them.

He CAN put pressure on businesses as well as private sales to crack down on them at any time.

AG Holder has PROVEN to be a lap dog for Obama and will do anything he wants done.

Obama CAN do a LOT of damange to American citizens who have firearms.


Don't just blame Congress and the Republicans for not standing up to him, the Supreme Court put in some rules that kind of stops them and limits them very much.

With the Democrats in Control of thr Senate it will be hard as heck if not imposible to over ride Obama excutive orders. Thanks to the Democrat voters we are stuck.
To date, U.S. courts have overturned only two executive orders: the aforementioned Truman order, and a 1995 order issued by President Clinton that attempted to prevent the federal government from contracting with organizations that had strike-breakers on the payroll.[8] Congress was able to overturn an executive order by passing legislation in conflict with it during the period of 1939 to 1983 until the Supreme Court ruled in Immigration and Naturalization Service v. Chadha that the "legislative veto" represented "the exercise of legislative power" without "bicameral passage followed by presentment to the President."[9] The loss of the legislative veto has caused Congress to look for alternative measures to override executive orders such as refusing to approve funding necessary to carry out certain policy measures contained with the order or to legitimize policy mechanisms. In the former, the president retains the power to veto such a decision; however, the Congress may override a veto with a two-thirds majority to end an executive order. It has been argued that a Congressional override of an executive order is a nearly impossible event due to the supermajority vote required and the fact that such a vote leaves individual lawmakers very vulnerable to political criticism.[1
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#3116296 - 01/09/13 01:29 PM Re: Obama Might Use Executive Order to Deal With Guns [Re: Wildcat]
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I hope he doesnt try the EO route, but a well-funded legal challenge would certainly result, as at least 100 million citizens would have Standing to pursue it to the Supreme Court. Figuring on a fast track 3 yr plan to work it through the lower courts, and knowing in the time in between the prez could appoint 2 justices (presumably anti-gun), this could go badly.
However, over half the voting population of the country just absolutely LOVE the president, so its probably a losing game for gun-owners from the get-go.

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