he will cause some very very very serious issues if he uses executive order. he should get impeached if he does that and it will cause some crazy issues.

You are correct but the repubs can't even make a stand on spending, do any of us REALLY think they'll stand up to this?

I predict crickets chirping from Alexander and Corkers camps.

Yep.

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gun owners must stand up no one can be on the fence about the issue we gotta stand united. or some very bad things are coming there already coming but we gotta put up a fight....

It will be cold day in .... everyone must remember why we even have a Second Amendment -

ferg....

Exactly...for just such an occasion. It's not the first time this has happened.

I hope he doesnt try the EO route, but a well-funded legal challenge would certainly result, as at least 100 million citizens would have Standing to pursue it to the Supreme Court. Figuring on a fast track 3 yr plan to work it through the lower courts, and knowing in the time in between the prez could appoint 2 justices (presumably anti-gun), this could go badly.
However, over half the voting population of the country just absolutely LOVE the president, so its probably a losing game for gun-owners from the get-go.

Hunters and gun owners, democrat and republican BETTER stand together or we all loose in this battle!

I know some argue that this stuff needs to be on the "political forum" but personally I think it needs to stay out front so we all are well informed on this subject.

I find it rather hypocritical that Biden, a man that supports abortion in his public life, could state that "Gun Control is a moral issue, it's critically important that we act."

Not to muddy the waters, but what the heck are these idiots thinking? What is their line of reasoning?

The President can use his "executive power" to insure the additional gun control is enacted. However, this same man points fingers and blames the other side for his economic failures.

USE YOUR EXECUTIVE POWER to solve the debt crisis.

They all need to go. I mean every last one of them, Republican and Democrat. They are all playing games and pointing fingers. It is time to clear out the Government and elect some common sense.

Hunters and gun owners, democrat and republican BETTER stand together or we all loose in this battle!

I know some argue that this stuff needs to be on the "political forum" but personally I think it needs to stay out front so we all are well informed on this subject.

Only thing that worries me is if it ever comes to a stand up against law enforcment or military, which is who it will be a stand against, I worry more for my familys outcome than mine.

As for term limits, they are already trying to extend Obama's presidency. The way the masses (main stream media, famous people around the world) back the big O, I would say keep a close eye on this!

As for term limits, they are already trying to extend Obama's presidency. The way the masses (main stream media, famous people around the world) back the big O, I would say keep a close eye on this!

Ok I have read some over the top stuff on here in the past several weeks but this is rediculous.

Won't happen....

That has about as much chance of passing the Congress and a Supreme Court challenge as Socialized Medicine and forcing Americans to buy a product or suffer a tax penalty. Won't happen?

Lamar Alexander is a good man.

Yep.

I find it rather hypocritical that Biden, a man that supports abortion in his public life, could state that "Gun Control is a moral issue, it's critically important that we act."

Not to muddy the waters, but what the heck are these idiots thinking? What is their line of reasoning?

The President can use his "executive power" to insure the additional gun control is enacted. However, this same man points fingers and blames the other side for his economic failures.

USE YOUR EXECUTIVE POWER to solve the debt crisis.

They all need to go. I mean every last one of them, Republican and Democrat. They are all playing games and pointing fingers. It is time to clear out the Government and elect some common sense.

OK I got a dumb question do don't blast me.
I see this COULD go bad for gun owners.
But I don't see the connection to the government taking all our guns and America becoming a dictatorship and the comparisons to Hitler.
Don't we have term limits? Haven't we had a gun ban before, alcohol taken away at some point. I don't get the sky is falling mentality and I could be wrong.
The US doesn't have enough money to pay its bills or fund policeman or border patrol, and etc....
How are they going to fund going to houses and getting weapons?
And this is a question I really would like to know the answer to from the mitary guys, are you sworn to protect the President or a certain political party or the freedoms of the US and the Constitution. If I am thinking correctly and it is the latter, then if a Hitleresque figure arose, wouldn't the military defend against it.
These are legit questions I just want to be informed....

"It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what it will be to-morrow." --James Madison, Federalist No. 62, 1788

Man these guys really knew what could happen, b/c it happened to them.

GREAT post MUP.

The fact that Obama is considering using Executive Orders to get what he wants is very telling. It means he doesnt have the votes in congress to get legislation passed on gun control.
Executive Orders can not be used circumvent the U.S. Constitution. The prez could order another govt agency to tax guns or gun related products, but that tax could not exceed 100% of the retail value of the item. So a $15 box of ammo could be taxed $15.... This is why the tax for a civilian to own a machinegun is set at $200. In 1934 the retail cost of a Thompson sub-machinegun was $200 (a LOTof money back then), so the tax was set at $200. the prices of Thompsons is a lot higher now, but the tax has been $200 since 1934.
Executive Orders can be used to regulate what other govt agencies do. An Executive Order carries the same weight as a law.
Any thing seen as an extreme abuse of Executive Priviledge (such as total gun ban or confiscation) would be subject to immediate action by congress to nullify the order through legislation, or certainly face a constitutional challenge fast-tracked through the lower courts and up to the Supreme Court.
I dont like this administration, but one thing i can say about them is that they are smart. Really smart. They cover their legal bases very well and seem to pretty much get what they want.
There have been other smart administrations in the past, but these guys are cunning in finding ways to circumvent current legal standards and practices to achieve their goals.

The Supreme Court has only overturned an Executive Order TWICE in history.

you mean they have only overturned 2 Executive orders?