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#3113656 - 01/07/13 09:03 PM Re: SC addresses the shooting of hunting dogs [Re: mud198]
WestTn Huntin'man
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Seems like now days hunting dogs need to be trained with collars.
http://dogtrainingcollars.com/
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#3113756 - 01/07/13 09:25 PM Re: SC addresses the shooting of hunting dogs [Re: W.Seay]
rukiddin?
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 Originally Posted By: W.Seay
Hey bud drop a couple million on a deer property, spend thousands in food plots, $75,000.00 on a tractor, thousands just in fuel alone getting there, thousands on deer stands and most of all MY TIME and have some idiot and his dogs running deer that I'm trying to hunt and you wouldn't like it AT ALL! Especially when they lie and say I didn't know I was on private property"" as I said a dog owner who really loves his dogs will keep them on HIS own property.


Thats an understandable complaint...But quite honestly, if you drop that kind of investment on deer hunting where running dogs is legal.....Then you should have thought about that before you made the initial investment....No different than city folks moving out to the country then complaining about farmer bobs chicken or hog houses..Think before you buy. Thats the same complaint in Eastern NC....Still hunters will lease a 1000 acres in the middle of tens of thousands of acres of dog clubs then get pissed off when dogs come on their land...Its gonna happen, I'm not saying its ok, its not, but its the nature of the game. I have'nt had deer hounds in 10 years and thats the main reason I got out. To do it right, I would'nt turn out on less than 1000 acres.
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#3113814 - 01/07/13 09:41 PM Re: SC addresses the shooting of hunting dogs [Re: mud198]
rukiddin?
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 Originally Posted By: mud198
TeamMainstreet you are right good hounds won't run deer.


I know ya'll boys are mainly talking about coon hounds, but I've saw guys trade trucks for good deer hounds. Saw guys give dog owner a blank chek for a dog and told owner to fill in numbers. There are some kennels in E. NC full of deer/fox hounds that are more sophisticated and elaborate than any Retriever or pointer kennel you will ever see. Its a different world for sure.
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#3113818 - 01/07/13 09:42 PM Re: SC addresses the shooting of hunting dogs [Re: rukiddin?]
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To rukidden?'s point, my club had 5,000 acres in the heart of dog hunting country in VA and was surrounded by properties owned by clubs that ran dogs. There was a mutual respect for unrecognized (and radio collared) dogs running deer. My perspective is born from that experience. I have not had to deal with dogs ruining my hunting here in TN. That being said, I can understand the frustration of one who has not experienced this type of deer hunting, especially if it is unexpected.

Edited by Methane (01/07/13 09:45 PM)

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#3113843 - 01/07/13 09:50 PM Re: SC addresses the shooting of hunting dogs [Re: rukiddin?]
WestTn Huntin'man
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I don't see much in the discussion about the type of dogs. The picture shows Beagles.There is a big difference between what type of dog and the type of game they are chasing. A short legged beagle small game hunting is not much threat to a deer or anyone. They won't ruin the deer hunting like a long legged coon hound.A big hound that is used for Big Game (Hogs and Bear) will run the deer off a property and can be a threat to a person. Not taking sides just adding to the discussion.
If I had millions to spend on deer hunting. I'd be putting up some high fences to keep dogs and people off . \:\)


Edited by WestTn Huntin'man (01/07/13 09:52 PM)
Edit Reason: to clear a point
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#3113870 - 01/07/13 10:02 PM Re: SC addresses the shooting of hunting dogs [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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Not if you want fair chase conditions you wouldn't put a fence up!
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#3113876 - 01/07/13 10:04 PM Re: SC addresses the shooting of hunting dogs [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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Beagle, redbone, coonhound...all ran deer hard. All scared of anyone but the handlers.
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#3113890 - 01/07/13 10:15 PM Re: SC addresses the shooting of hunting dogs [Re: Methane]
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The bottom line is that NOBODY enjoys dogs pressuring the deer they are hunting. It is very annoying to watch deer and all the sudden here comes a pack of dogs raising heck chasing deer all over the property! I understand that accidents sometimes happen BUT most of the time the guys running the dogs don't give a crap who's private property their on. It all boils down to having respect for another mans property. If you allow your pets or hunting dogs to run loose, be prepared to deal with what could follow. For the record you guys that say this type of dog or that type of dog won't run deer, you are wrong. I've seen labs, golden retrievers, blue tics, blood hounds, beagles,mutts, fiests, pit bulls, Rottweilers, and several other breeds run deer and nearly catch them.

Edited by W.Seay (01/07/13 10:20 PM)
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#3113909 - 01/07/13 10:21 PM Re: SC addresses the shooting of hunting dogs [Re: Methane]
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I have never ran deer with hounds before but it sounds like something I could get into. Being a Houndsmen of any kind apparently is not the thing to do these days, especially with all of these multi million dollar deer operations.
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#3113929 - 01/07/13 10:26 PM Re: SC addresses the shooting of hunting dogs [Re: W.Seay]
TeamMainStreet
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 Originally Posted By: W.Seay
The bottom line is that NOBODY enjoys dogs pressuring the deer they are hunting. It is very annoying to watch deer and all the sudden here comes a pack of dogs raising heck chasing deer all over the property! I understand that accidents sometimes happen BUT most of the time the guys running the dogs don't give a crap who's private property their on. It all boils down to having respect for another mans property. If you allow your pets or hunting dogs to run loose, be prepared to deal with what could follow. For the record you guys that say this type of dog or that type of dog won't run deer, you are wrong. I've seen labs, golden retrievers, blue tics, blood hounds, beagles,mutts, fiests, pit bulls, Rottweilers, and several other breeds run deer and nearly catch them.



Sir I sincerely hope you enjoy shooting every dog that crosses within the borders of your operation. No skin off my nose.
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