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#3108129 - 01/03/13 06:59 PM Need Input For a Discussion I am Having
bowriter
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How many of you have ever been lost or as it is with me, just badly misplaced and had to spend the night in the woods? If so, how prepared were you?
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#3108136 - 01/03/13 07:04 PM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: bowriter]
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Once in Tellico. I had enough equipment with me so that it wasn't too bad. The hardest part was finding enough dry wood to get a fire going. I wasn't but about a mile from the road but I didn't want to try to find it in the dark. I had a radio to contact others in my party so they didn't waste time looking for me.
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#3108169 - 01/03/13 07:22 PM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: Beekeeper]
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I have never been lost. Just misplaced . \:D I got lost coonhunting one night when I was in high school. I was also camping at the time so noone knew I was missing. I built a fire skinned the coon and me and the dog had roasted coon on a stick. One of the best meals I have eaten.Dawn arrived and I recognized a familiar tree I passed by on my way in to camp. I was probably a 1/2 mile from camp. All I had was my dog, knife, lighter,clothes on my back, and my light.I made it alright.
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#3108224 - 01/03/13 07:56 PM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: timberjack86]
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I had a little adventure in Michigan, Instead of walking the long road that led directly to the car, my buddy and I cut through the woods. I was sure we were heading straight for the car. Nope ! We walked and walked never found the clearing. Finally we popped out on a state highway, right next to a Beer store, what luck. Talking to the clerk we were about half a mile from the road that took us to our car. That shortcut turned out to be a mile longer than the original walk in.
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#3108246 - 01/03/13 08:07 PM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: Redwing]
eweisner
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In a situation I can't say much about with a CSM and. Lt. Col I don't remember. Got left by patrol, I recommended we follow SOP and sit still. They refused, luckily I had studied a map and knew the land. 5 miles later we were back at base. Lt. Col tried to recommend me for article 15. Platoon Sargeant told him where he could put it, respectfully of course.

I had an M16, 120 rounds, bayonet, two canteens, an MRE, two packs Marlboro's, and a zippo. Probably would have been fine.


Edited by eweisner (01/04/13 12:19 AM)
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#3108637 - 01/04/13 05:44 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: ]
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This is an intersting story that may interst you. What they don't tell you that almost any direction within two miles in Shelby Forrest you find a road, hiking trail or the Miss. River.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...forest/?print=1
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#3108651 - 01/04/13 05:59 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: Hawk]
stik
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i got turned around once in tellico thinking i was on a ridge that paralleled the road/river. i dropped off the side of the ridge expecting a road and found a very small creek. hmmmm i went back up the ridge where i started and thought i was backtracking towards the road. another trip off the ridge and no road. ok now what? it's getting late afternoon now. back to the top of the ridge(i was MUCH younger ;\) ) and by then it's starting to get towards sunset and i think i better get prepared for a long night.it wasn't supposed to get real cold and i had clothes,water and food and a rifle. as i was looking for a place for the night, i saw a light off the other side of the ridge. i headed that way and came out on cherohala(or whatever it was called back then)skyway. 17 miles by road from where i was parked.
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#3108659 - 01/04/13 06:21 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: stik]
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I've never been lost in the woods...I have been turned around because I accused the compass of LYING to me..lol.....Got out well before dark, so I wouldn't consider that lost..Since then, I always take a compass and pretty much know where I am(area). In some cases I take an aerial map of the area. Now with a GPS, you would think getting lost would be a thing of the past.

My phone has the feature where it will show you an aerial photo and where you are at any given time, even which direction you are headed....

technology is great......when it works..lol.
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#3108661 - 01/04/13 06:24 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: stik]
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I got turned around once in Hickman County while hunting on paper company land. Had never been there before and I was badly unprepared. Did have a bottle of water and a couple of granola bars to eat. Could have been very serious as I am a diabetic. Did not even have something to start a fire. I found an old half rotten log and was able to crawl up in it and cover myself with leaves. luckily for me, the night was not very cold.

I never go hunting now without food in my pack and something to start a fire. Also carry a cheap rainsuit I could at least put on to block wind and hold in body heat. And, I carry a Garmin, compass, and cell phone with me.

My cousin was with me but figured I would come out of the woods sometime during the night. He just went on to bed in my camper.


Edited by GRAMPS (01/04/13 06:27 AM)
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#3108729 - 01/04/13 07:42 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: GRAMPS]
jb3
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Wasn't me, but my roommate in college and another friend spent the night in a gorge at fall creek falls. Hiked to the bottom of the falls and started walking it out. Didn't realize it gets dark a little earlier down there. Started walking back and turned up the wrong split. Temps got down in the low 30's and all they had on were jeans and long sleeve shirts (temp was in the 50's when they started). They had a lighter but everything in the bottom was wet. They burned everything in their wallets that would burn. The next morning they got back to the parking lot just as a search party was being assembled to come look for them.
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#3108732 - 01/04/13 07:44 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: jb3]
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Good Grief John,
Are you that desperate that you need us for an article?
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#3108815 - 01/04/13 08:35 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: 102]
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Went elk hunting in mountains of Idaho few years back. Hired a guide to help us and the evening I got my elk he lost the horses. We looked for hours and I finally told him that I was finished! He had no idea where we were!Camped for the night. Found horsed when it was light out. Best fresh backstrap I ever eat cooked over the camp fire that night fresh from my elk! That happened to be the only time I had not marked the horses on my GPS when we left them. Learned a lot that night.

I always have ammo, fire starter, salt/pepper, first aid kit, multi tool. Those things made for a somewhat pleasant night that night! Ended up being the most fun of the whole trip!


Edited by Timberdoodle (01/04/13 08:38 AM)
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#3108818 - 01/04/13 08:40 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: Timberdoodle]
Mike Belt
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I've been tmporarily misplaced before. It taught me to always carry a compass and they don't lie.
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#3108820 - 01/04/13 08:43 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: 102]
Kirk
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I was in my early 20's. A group of 6, all of us high school buddies drove over to Benton County to deer hunt some Westvaco land. One of my friends worked with a man that was from the Big Sandy area and he had told him about the Westvaco land and was letting us use his cabin on a small tract of adjoining farm land. None of us had ever been there before. After some searching and stopping a few times to ask for directions we found the cabin.

It had been raining all night and most of the morning. We left the cabin around noon and walked over to the Westvaco tract and split up. The temperature was starting to drop a little so I had tied a jacket around my waist to wear later on. Flashlight, knife and rifle was all I had.

The low rolling ridges of that area all look similar to the unfamiliar eye. As the afternoon progressed a fog started to form. Visibility was down to about 50 feet around 3:30 PM. I tried to walk back the direction I thought I had entered the woods. After a few minutes of walking I was hopelessly lost. This was before handheld GPS units were commercially available so I was left with only my sense of direction to find my way out. I finally collected my thoughts enough to sit down and listen for traffic. I could hear what sounded like a 4 wheeler
an unknown distance away.

I started walking toward the noise but it stopped. I was dead in the water again. I sat back down and listened some more. After a few minutes I could hear a faint sound of running water. I recalled that I had seen a small creek that crossed the main road about a mile below the cabin. I started working my way in the direction of the sound of running water. It was getting dark, I was freaked out and honestly sort of scared.

In my journey toward the creek I found a logging road. I started following it downhill and it came out about 3/4 of a mile from the cabin. I was lucky.

6 of of us went in the woods that afternoon. 3 of us got lost in the fog. Tim Murphy and his brother Terry both got lost too. Tim followed the ridges out to a farm house and a farmer drove him the 4 miles back to the cabin. Terry, who had shot a deer, spent the night in the woods. He built a fire and stayed as warm as he could until daylight. He pulled up the next morning, piggybacking on a three wheeler, dragging a deer behind it. a hunter had happened by on a three wheeler.

When the trip was over, the first purchase I made was a compass. I now have a handheld GPS and still carry the compass.
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#3108829 - 01/04/13 08:47 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: bowriter]
Brisco Darlin
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never lost enough to spend the night. was turned around once at catoosa and ended up a pretty good ways from where i had parked.
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#3108951 - 01/04/13 10:07 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: Brisco Darlin]
KANATI McD
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Never been lost, turned around a few times.

But to answer your question, I am always prepared to go hunt and come home.

I am never prepared to stay in the woods overnight or more. And would estimate 97% of hunters arent. JMO

Kinda makes ya think: Maybe I should pack a few odd and ends Just in case.
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#3108972 - 01/04/13 10:19 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: GRAMPS]
catman529
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I've been turned around once or twice but never lost. Guess I haven't been in big enough woods yet.
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#3109037 - 01/04/13 11:09 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: 102]
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 Originally Posted By: 102
Good Grief John,
Are you that desperate that you need us for an article?

Thats what I was thinking!! ;\)

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#3109041 - 01/04/13 11:13 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: catman529]
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I have never been lost all night but have been turned around for several hours after dark twice. Once at AEDC with my cousin walking powerlines during a deer hunt. Every time we would come to another powerline, we just knew it was the one we were looking for - only to find out it wasn't. A group of hunters drove by one time asking if we needed a ride. We were too proud to say yes and told them we were enjoying the walk. By the time we finally found the truck we were dragging.

I got lost another time alone and that was a bit more distressing. Back then I didn't even carry a flashlight. I remember there was a fairly bright moon so I had light but still was walking into small limbs. I tried to walk towards traffic sounds on the highway but the apparent direction of the sound would shift so I walked in circles for a couple of hours before coming out on a road that I didn't recognize in somebodies back yard. Some big dogs were going crazy barking and growling at me so I had to circle way around that house. It turned out that I was about a mile from my truck.

Obviously I wasn't prepared at all to spend the night either time. I did have my 460 Weatherby in the 2nd situation so I felt well armed. \:\) Nowdays I hunt my own land so getting lost is not an issue.


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#3109490 - 01/04/13 05:26 PM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: 102]
bowriter
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 Originally Posted By: 102
Good Grief John,
Are you that desperate that you need us for an article?


LOL- no, having an argument with a couple guys re how much equipment most hunters carry and what they don't have they should have. My stance is, most hunters today have enough high-tech stuff it should be impossible for them to get lost to the extent they have to spend the night. Should have geared it more toward mountain hunting out west as that is what we were talking about.

I have my cols. mapped out through March. \:\)
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#3109906 - 01/04/13 09:47 PM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: GRAMPS]
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never have but I always carry matches and a lighter in my bag. if you have fire thatll always help.
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#3109939 - 01/04/13 10:15 PM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: bowriter]
eweisner
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John,

I would tend to agree with you. Most guys I know carry a smart phone. The largest concern is running the battery down. Some even carry two way radios though not sure of the emergency capabilities of those beyond te way communication. I have recently noticed that Garmin has come out with a very simple GPS device with limited functionality. They run $50. Thought it would be nice as a precaution.

Though I would recommend doing a map recon before going in anywhere. Most people anymore do not have the skills necessary to survive in the wild for more than a day. I think that have actually made me rethink what I put in my daypack for next season, and what my kids need to learn before we start.
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#3110059 - 01/05/13 06:33 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: eweisner]
bowriter
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Not many left who can read a map and use a compass. probably even fewer who can build a simple shelter and get a fire going in wet weather. Lot of valuable skills lost to technology.

For simple, everyday day deer hunting, most hunters carry far more equipment than they need. I, for example, never even bother with a pack. There is nothing I need that I can't get in my pockets. But if I am hunting out west, I carry a simple day pack that might weigh 10-pounds tops with all I need to survive 2-3 days. That pack is lighter than the pack many carry for a hunt from dawn to noon around here. \:\)
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#3110065 - 01/05/13 06:46 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: bowriter]
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I got rained in while fishing over in the White River Game Refuge in AR years back. The muddy roads were impossible to traverse, so I was stuck in there for a couple of days until everything dried up enough that I could get some traction to get up out of the swamp bottoms. Just slept in the car and used the lighter in the car to light a campfire for a couple of nights and ate the fish.
This was before cell phones, and amazingly, none of my friends worried about me or sent anyone looking. I guess that's telling in and of itself.
However, since I was a kid I've spent the night in the woods many, many times just for fun. I have been through many woodland and desert survival courses so if it happened again it would be no big deal.
The thing that makes it all better is to know what to do, and don't get freaked out. Really, with a knife and a lighter you can get by comfortably in this part of the country for a couple of days as long as you have the knowledge of what to do. If you have that knife, a lighter AND a couple of garbage bags with you, why you will think you are staying at the Ritz Carlton when you are lost in the woods. You just gotta know what to do.

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#3110088 - 01/05/13 07:15 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: BlackBelt]
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Yea..not too much problem getting lost where i hunt. But it does make you think. If i am hunting alone and something happens to where i can't get out and nobodys looking for me...it would be good to have some extra stuff packed!
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#3110218 - 01/05/13 09:45 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: outdoors crazy]
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Got lost in Fall creek Falls once, had hunted the morning hunt and met everyone back at the logging road for a nap. Everyone headed back to their stands around 2pm and I knew to watch for a fork in the ridge to find my stand. Well apparently, their was 2 forks and I took the first one. I ended up at the bottom at which 5 ridges come down. I turned around and they all looked the same. Even couldnt fingure out which one I had just come down. I remembered the sun was at my back coming off the main logging road so I headed straight toward the sun. I did find a hiking trail and eventually found the main logging road but I was way past my hunting party. I got back to familiar woods just in time to recover my stand and meet everyone. I had packed a light, knife, lighter/pack of smokes, rope,cover sent, compass.
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#3111445 - 01/06/13 10:07 AM Re: Need Input For a Discussion I am Having [Re: HAWKEYE]
Kirk
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In the aftermath of being lost I bought an Army Ranger survival manual and later on bought a book called "Naked into the Wilderness". The Army Ranger Survival manual is small enough to carry with you. If I am going to be in a large unfamiliar area I always carry it along with my compass and GPS.

The cool thing about "Naked into the Wilderness" it tells you how to survive even if you have nothing with you. I learned a lot reading this book. I even learned how to build a fire using a fire Plow and a Drill. Now the secret to all of this is to practice all the skills and become proficient from the comfort of civilization. Then if you do get lost it isn't an
overwhelming experience because you have done it before.

I think it would be neat for a bunch of us to get together and have a survival training class. Share what we know and hopefully learn a lot of new things.
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