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#3104860 - 01/01/13 06:23 PM NEF/HR Shooters
downthebrown
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Guys, I'm having trouble sighting in my rifle. I've checked my rings and bases for tightness, checked rings for scope clearance and still can't get the thing to group more than 2 shots together. The only other thing that doesn't seem right is the factory base that came on the gun. There is a gap between the barrel and the base, and there is quite a bit of flexing there. Have any of you used any other bases on these guns, and if so what kind? Or does anyone have another suggestion as to what may be wrong. Thanks guys.
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#3104885 - 01/01/13 06:40 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: downthebrown]
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Bedding the base should cure the flexing issue. This a video of a Rem. 700 but you can get an idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv5KCXchSgY


Edited by rdl65 (01/01/13 06:45 PM)
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#3104946 - 01/01/13 07:11 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: rdl65]
downthebrown
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That's a neat process but I'm not sure it would help. The base that came on my gun is 4-6" longer than the screws that hold that end in. That is where the flexing and gap are. I tried moving the rings back as far as I could and that helped some. I'm just plain ignorant when it comes to these things. I may just buy a shorter base and try that. If it fixes the problem great, if not then who knows. Thanks for the help.
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#3104972 - 01/01/13 07:23 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: downthebrown]
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i think the rifle just need to come to cheatham county
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#3104990 - 01/01/13 07:32 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: Deer Assassin]
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#3105003 - 01/01/13 07:36 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: KPH]
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That's kind of what I'm thinking too DA. May have to make a trip up that way since you don't get this way very often. This flipping thing has me aggravated to say the least!
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#3105015 - 01/01/13 07:42 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: downthebrown]
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i used a dremel and took off the portion of base that was hanging over. it seemed to help
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#3105207 - 01/01/13 08:56 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: utfan1]
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Here is a link to some info that has helped me.

http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php/topic,116451.0.html


Also it might help if we knew what caliber/round your shooting.


Edited by Blucollar (01/01/13 09:14 PM)
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#3105269 - 01/01/13 09:43 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: Blucollar]
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.280 with Burris Signature Zee rings, Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40. Shooting Federal Vital Shock 140gr ballistic tips. Thanks for that link. I can see that 3 of those may be an issue already, but time will tell.
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#3105644 - 01/02/13 09:16 AM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: downthebrown]
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How long are you waiting between shots? H&Rs generally hate heat and groups open way up. I'm shooting an H&R Smokeless ML and the factory base has held up fine (knock on wood). The factory doesn't Locktite the base screws when they install them, so if you haven't already put Locktite on them you need to.

There are a couple on piece bases out there but they are tall enough to put a 50mm+ scope on so your Zeiss will be way off the barrel.
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#3105826 - 01/02/13 12:00 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: Rubberduck270]
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Have you tried any of the mods for them? Namely the o- ring in forearm trick. Don't know if your allowed to post info about orther sites here. If you are interested p.m. and I will give you more info. Did a couple of mods and after barrel was broke in. It really came to life.
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#3105915 - 01/02/13 12:43 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: jeff ll]
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Try different ammo! My son's .243 wouldn't group < 6" @ 100 yards, until I tried the Federal Fusion 95 grain bullets. Once I found the ammo it likes, it will group about an 1" .

Also, make 100% sure when you are sighting it in, that you aren't resting the barrel on anything. My son's .243 and my 45-70 tend to spray bullets when shooting out of a lead sled. It does better when shot off bags
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#3106014 - 01/02/13 01:42 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: gtk]
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This is the reason I got rid of all mine except one. By the time you think you figger it out it changes.
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#3106414 - 01/02/13 06:24 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: KPH]
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gene if you can wait till it warms up i will ride bike down for some chicken and bring it back with me or if your up this way holler

i will take of it for you i still have plenty of brass from your browning
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#3106521 - 01/02/13 07:26 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: Deer Assassin]
downthebrown
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Oh yea Lade, I have the other rifle for this weekend. That gives me a reason to go eat chicken too haha. Ill prolly be ready to get out the house by then with the new baby too!
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#3106564 - 01/02/13 07:38 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: downthebrown]
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good luck this weekend bud
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#3106668 - 01/02/13 08:13 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: Deer Assassin]
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Same to you. Maybe next year we can finally get the weather right and you up here again.
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#3108050 - 01/03/13 06:06 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: downthebrown]
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sounds good bud heck may have to get u back downs again here too
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#3385241 - 10/02/13 08:18 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: Deer Assassin]
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fixed lol
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#3385867 - 10/03/13 08:31 AM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: Deer Assassin]
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Use a dowell rod and sand paper to free float the barrel, get appropriate sized O-rings (I use 2 of them)to put over the fore-end stud to keep from having that pressure point.

When shooting it off of a rest to sight it in you need to put the front bag under the receiver close to the trigger guard, not under the fore-end. These things have taken my .22Hornet from 4 inches to under an inch at 100.

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#3385890 - 10/03/13 08:38 AM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: ratsnakeboogy]
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 Originally Posted By: ratsnakeboogy
Use a dowell rod and sand paper to free float the barrel, get appropriate sized O-rings (I use 2 of them)to put over the fore-end stud to keep from having that pressure point.

When shooting it off of a rest to sight it in you need to put the front bag under the receiver close to the trigger guard, not under the fore-end. These things have taken my .22Hornet from 4 inches to under an inch at 100.


its all good now

http://www.tndeer.com/tndeertalk/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3385286&page=1#Post3385286
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#3385946 - 10/03/13 09:10 AM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: Deer Assassin]
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 Originally Posted By: ratsnakeboogy
Use a dowell rod and sand paper to free float the barrel, get appropriate sized O-rings (I use 2 of them)to put over the fore-end stud to keep from having that pressure point.

When shooting it off of a rest to sight it in you need to put the front bag under the receiver close to the trigger guard, not under the fore-end. These things have taken my .22Hornet from 4 inches to under an inch at 100.


its all good now

http://www.tndeer.com/tndeertalk/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3385286&page=1#Post3385286


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#3388367 - 10/04/13 11:52 PM Re: NEF/HR Shooters [Re: ratsnakeboogy]
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