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#3102957 - 12/31/12 01:38 PM Great coyote photos
LanceS4803
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One of the web sites I frequent, snipershide, has a hunting forum.
Check out this guys photos of coyote hunting. Not sure where is was, but said it was sub zero temps.

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Edited by LanceS4803 (12/31/12 01:39 PM)
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#3103033 - 12/31/12 02:26 PM Re: Great coyote photos [Re: LanceS4803]
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Very cool \:\)
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#3103038 - 12/31/12 02:29 PM Re: Great coyote photos [Re: LanceS4803]
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Lot of fun right there
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#3103039 - 12/31/12 02:30 PM Re: Great coyote photos [Re: Backstrapcrazy]
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How do you surpress a 22-250?
I assume it wouldn't be totally silent, just more quiet?
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#3103253 - 12/31/12 04:58 PM Re: Great coyote photos [Re: RUGER]
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You eliminate the muzzle blast, but the ballistic supersonic crack remains.
Ear safe and supposedly it is very difficult to locate the source of the crack.
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#3103285 - 12/31/12 05:23 PM Re: Great coyote photos [Re: LanceS4803]
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Very cool.

Wonder what that costs?
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#3103316 - 12/31/12 05:54 PM Re: Great coyote photos [Re: RUGER]
LanceS4803
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Cheap, steel, suppressor- about $500
Very nice, titanium (light weight)- about $900
And don't forget your $200 donation to BATF for the tax stamp.
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#3103320 - 12/31/12 05:55 PM Re: Great coyote photos [Re: LanceS4803]
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Awesome. I plan on suppressing mine. And one of my deer rifles in the future. If it will still be legal
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#3103490 - 12/31/12 08:05 PM Re: Great coyote photos [Re: hunter drew]
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If your thinking of buying a supressor look into getting an NFA trust. It maybe pricey up front but well worth it. It allows anyone you deem responsible to possess them to include family. Just have to add them to the trust. You can even designate an inheritor so they won't have to deal with a transfer and fee if something happens to you. My supressors are sitting at the shop awaiting gov't approval. Amazing takes them 24 hrs to cash the check and 3 months to approve paper work.
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#3103502 - 12/31/12 08:12 PM Re: Great coyote photos [Re: TNbuckeye]
LanceS4803
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3 months?
Who are you bribing in West Virginia?
I have had a Form 1 in since June. Not a peep from them yet. (Form 4s take the same amount of time. Averaging 6-7 months.)
I'll do a Form 4 for my 30cal suppressor in Feb, should be done by deer season.
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#3103548 - 12/31/12 08:40 PM Re: Great coyote photos [Re: LanceS4803]
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When ya do them could someone PM me on how they go though the process and do you pay for the suppressor first while you wait for the stamp.
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#3104260 - 01/01/13 11:49 AM Re: Great coyote photos [Re: hunter drew]
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I'll post for all:
Find an SOT (Special Occupational Tax) dealer you want to work with. You have to take possession from within your own state. If you find a suppressor from a dealer in another state you can buy from them, but they will have to ship to your dealer. (I was going to buy mine from a dealer in AL who offered a great price. When I told my local guy about it, he matched the price. Although I still had to pay sales tax on the TN sale, it came out even with what he would have charged for the transfer and my shipping costs.) If you do buy from an out of state dealer, the suppressor will transfer to your dealer on a tax-free Form 3. The transfer from the selling dealer to your dealer still has to be approved by ATF, but that process is just about 3 weeks.

Pick out the suppressor you want. Check snipershide for a great rifle suppresor forum. There are also dedicated suppressor forums on various other websites.

Buy the suppressor. You need the serial number for the paperwork. Your dealer hangs onto to it until approved. Some dealers let you shoot your suppresor in the meantime at their range or during various events. They still retain physical possession.

If this is your first NFA (National Firearms Act) item, have the dealer do all the paperwork for you. I've been doing my own, but you have to be SPOT ON with everything or it gets kicked back.
Your paperwork is the Form 4, Transfer. It has the dealers info, your info and the item info. On the back is the Chief Law Enforcement Officer info and signature. Or, go with a Trust as previously recommended.

Get 2 passport photos and 2 ATF stamped fingerprint cards. Your dealer will have the cards.

The duplicates of Form 4, photos, fingerprints cards, as well as self-cretified proof of citizenship (stupid form), get mailed to ATF with your $200 check.

ATF conducts legal reviews to make sure your item is allowed in your city/state. They also do a crim history check. This is currently taking about 6 months. If used, a Trust also goes through a legal review but not a crim history check.

If approved, ATF affixes a tax stamp to your Form 4 and sends it back to your dealer, who calls you to pick up the suppressor.

I make a 50% reduced copy, front and back, of the form 4 and laminate it. Keep the original Form 4 secure and take the copy with you when you go to the range, hunting, etc. Unlike a machine gun (MG), short barreled rifle (SBR), short barreled shotgun (SBS) or destructive device (DD), you do not need prior ATF approval to take the suppressor across state lines. Just make sure the suppressor is legal in the location you are going.

On the off chance you find a TN state resident with a registered suppressor you want to buy, the process is almost the same. Both of you do the paperwork and send it in. The approved Form 4 will come back to him and he will let you know. Used suppressors are rare. After investing the additional $200, most people just keep them.

The paperwork sounds daunting, but it really isn't (after the first one). The hard part is the waiting to pick up womething you've already paid for!

One last thing. Owning a NFA item does not incur any additional scrutiny from ATF. No spot checks, home searches, show-and-tell. Nothing like that. They consider it just another weapon.

If I have left out anything in the process, someone please add.

And a little trivia for you:
Since 1934, when the NFA was instituted, how many crimes have been committed with a legally owned machine gun?
One. A police officer in Ohio, in the mid 1970s, used his registered Mac 10 (or 11), to kill a competing drug dealer.
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